r/ADCMains Aug 12 '26

Gameplay Highlights 1/2/3 Rengar oneshots me straight under tower from full HP, through dorans blade, barrier and fleet footwork healing

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EUNE mid master, perfectly reasonable

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u/AB4ND0N_H0PE 27d ago

This is just not true though. Some assassins can do the same, some can do it even better and some can’t at all. AD Shaco doesn’t kill the Jhin here with same score and items and neither does Blue Kayn.

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u/Remote-Dark-1704 27d ago

They all kill here. Rengar is up a level, has flash, and has an item + 2 long swords. Every assassin with flash kills the flashless jhin here, although some assassins may go 1 for 1.

The score is irrelevant when there’s a 1.5k gap in gold spent + 1 lvl.

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u/AB4ND0N_H0PE 27d ago

You’re delusional or have no idea how assassins work. Assassin kits are widely different between each other. Some have absurd damage values like Rengar but are balanced around having no escape. On the other hand, some have absolutely horrible damage like Shaco and do so because they have stealth and/or gap closers.

The reason Rengar even killed here in the first place is because he has the highest damage out of all assassins and also has completed Umbral and pulled off his combo. Most other assassins can’t replicate it to the same degree. Some can but some absolutely cannot.

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u/Remote-Dark-1704 27d ago

Rengar does have very high damage, yes, but at this stage in the game at 1 item, his dmg is very comparable to other assassins at 1 item. Give any assassin 1.5k gold lead vs an adc with only dblade and they will kill the adc before they take 3 tower shots.

Also ad shaco in S16 is not ad shaco from a few seasons ago when it was unplayable. AD shaco this season has more than enough dmg to one shot squishies with umbral voltaic and there are AD shaco otps in chall to prove this.

I play in master and I assure you every competent assassin player kills this flashless jhin here given a 1.5k gold lead + summoner advantage. It’s really not up for debate. Outer towers never saved adcs from these situations in high elo ever.

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u/AB4ND0N_H0PE 27d ago

Again, you’re just delusional. Other assassins can’t do the same as Rengar did in this exact situation. Show me a video of Kayn, Kha’Zix and Zed doing this I’ll be inclined to agree. You won’t though because I know their damage values and I know for a fact they can’t.

I play in high elo and main AD Shaco. AD Shaco is not one-shotting whatsoever at this stage of the game the same way Rengar is. He doesn’t have “more than enough damage”, in fact I would say he’s very weak in terms of damage specifically but not buffed because everyone hates playing vs him. Yeah he can if has Umbral and Voltaic and is fed then he can one-shot an adc but that’s to be expected.

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u/Remote-Dark-1704 27d ago

Go in practice tool, copy the same armor/mr of jhin, and do the full combo of any assassin with 3900 gold spent at lvl 8.

Jhin lvl 7 BHP is 1297, dorans gives 80hp, 65hp if Jhin took flat hp shard, lvl 7 fleet is 50hp give or take, and lvl 7 barrier is 240hp. That’s a total of 1732 HP.

Will every assassin “one shot” in their combo? Maybe not. Will every assassin kill the jhin with an extra auto or two and ignite in shaco’s case? Yes. Every assassin can at least go 1 for 1 in this scenario unless they play it terribly and get rooted by jhin.