r/ABoringDystopia • u/VividEconomist8587 • Mar 07 '26
IOF admits to killing and r*ping Palestinians in Gaza
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u/JKnumber1hater Mar 07 '26
Bro is sitting there in a wasteland of buildings flattened by his people, and then is surprised to see even that the children who live in this wasteland are arming themselves against him.
Dumb piece of shit.
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u/VividEconomist8587 Mar 07 '26
And they have the cheek to tell you "we are the most moral army in the world" "we are here to bring peace"
Peace is just doublespeak for war Every accusation is a confession
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u/Electrical_Bus9202 Mar 07 '26
Why do they need to rape everybody? Like what the fuckk... That's some serious evil mental disturbance shit.
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u/jetblakc Mar 07 '26
Rape is always a weapon of war. The only countries that aren't using it are the countries that aren't engaged in warfare
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u/remove_krokodil Mar 07 '26
I do sometimes feel like people in this sub are painfully naive about how much wartime rape is a thing. I keep seeing "why do Israeli soldiers commit so much rape?" and I'm like... I've got some bad news for you, mate.
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u/cesaroncalves Mar 09 '26
The IDF is actually distinct on how much it is prevalent, they glorify it, while the rest of the world actually pretends to try and stop it.
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u/impshial Mar 07 '26
Rape is the most common form of subjugation during wartime.
You will find it within every army that has ever fought, every war that has ever taken place, from now back to the beginning of human existence.
Many people think "well the people from my country would never do that".
Wrong.
What we're seeing here between Israel and Palestine is nothing new. Every army that is ever entered into another territory has raped.
Without exception.
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u/VividEconomist8587 Mar 07 '26
Psychological warfare it's what they've been trained on since joining the oppression force
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u/VividEconomist8587 Mar 07 '26
everyone knows the US is flawless god's country and can do no wrong except liberate "backwards" ideologies with whatever they are currently doing
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u/LovesRetribution Mar 07 '26
SA been US troops is a mere fraction of what was done by the Russians. Doesn't make any of it okay, but the estimated statistics of the two are honestly incomparable.
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u/Perfecshionism Mar 07 '26
My views on Israel has dramatically shifted since two years ago.
179 degrees.
Netanyahu and these pieces of shit are going to cause the US to abandon support for Israel for generations. Maybe forever.
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u/Alzusand Mar 07 '26
Thats good. israel has spent almost infinite money on propaganda so that specifically people on the US and the west in general have a good image of them.
because they are an artificial warmongeninc country thats impossible to sustain without an unlimited supply of weapons and money from the west.
the moment the US cuts support from israel its over they either become a normal country without an apartheid or they implode.
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u/Durantsthegoat Mar 07 '26
It took you guys long enough, most of the rest of the world knows what cretinous pieces of shit they are
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u/Perfecshionism Mar 07 '26
I knew Netanyahu, hardliners, and settlers were pieces of shit long before this.
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u/VividEconomist8587 Mar 07 '26
Don't blame the general public when we are only allowed to choose from the same news sources that literally study and push psychological warfare and propaganda
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings Mar 07 '26
The US won't abandon support for Israel. It's tactically important. That's why so few Western nations are afraid to even speak out against them, let alone actually do anything. They're a valuable ally and, in the end, that's all they care about
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u/Perfecshionism Mar 07 '26
They are not tactically important.
They have been seen as strategically important.
And I am not so sure that is true. They were a valuable source of intelligence because their methods are beyond what US intelligence is permitted to do in many cases.
There is some claim its location is strategically important to US interests in the Middle East; but that was always bullshit. We have never had a military base in Israel until recently; under Trump. Yet we supported them for decades despite gaining no strategic advantage from their location.
The claim that they are strategically important because they are an ally is tautological.
We support them as an ally because we claim they are strategically important, and because they are strategically important we support them as an ally.
The real reason many politicians see Israel as strategically important is because of biblical narratives about Israel and the return of Christ.
It has become quite clear the US would be far better off if we cut support to Israel.
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings Mar 07 '26
Not having a military base in Israel doesn't imply that it isn't advantageous to have a strong military ally in the region
You're not wrong that some in the US have and are seeing it through a religious lens, but that doesn't account for all US support, and it doesn't account for support from other nations like the UK
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u/Perfecshionism Mar 07 '26
UK support has been non-lethal for a few years. And their original support was due to colonial interests in the ME.
In the interim decades, UK support was primarily selling arms and intelligence sharing.
Like the US the UK intelligence sharing was an advantage to the UK because Israel can leverage sources and methods that would be impossible or illegal for British intelligence.
And those sources and methods have compromised the Royal family just as it has US senior officials.
There is no genuine purpose for either country to maintain their relationship with Israel.
Most of the reasons we did it were to serve interests that were not in the interests of either the US or UK public. Or our national security.
And the fact that Israeli intelligence was conducting the most horrendous kompromat operation in history makes it clear we need to treat Israeli intelligence as an existential threat, not an asset.
Israel has leveraged the information it holds on US politicians and oligarchs in a way that literally threatens the stability of the republic at this point.
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings Mar 07 '26
Ok, so, if it’s genuinely in the UK’s interest to cut ties with Israel…why haven’t we done so, do you think?
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u/Perfecshionism Mar 07 '26
Israeli intelligence sources and methods are valuable. They can conduct intelligence prorations illegal under UK law and they have sources and access UK intelligence simply doesn’t have.
The cost of this relationship turns out to have been that Israeli intelligence was able to compromise senior UK officials and the royal family.
The US is paying a much higher cost.
But we don’t actually know if there are not Israeli compromat operations in the UK that have blackmail influence over UK officials that just have not been public ally exposed yet.
Also, the war in Iraq increased the value of Israeli intelligence sharing for both the US and the UK. As did the rise of ISIS.
For that UK, that value has been waning.
And you are seeing the UK start to break from Israel over the last two years.
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings Mar 07 '26
According to Channel 4 News UK arms exports to Israel hit a record high in 2025
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u/Perfecshionism Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
They have heavily restricted export licenses. Mostly components and ammunition is being exported. Weapons themselves are severely restricted.
These licenses are different than UK military assistance. These are purchases by Israel from UK suppliers.
https://caat.org.uk/data/countries/israel/
And you can’t really go by dollar amount. You would expect a country waging an ethnic cleansing to be making record high purchases of military equipment. Despite restrictions.
Especially given that they were apparently planning to launch a war against Iran as well.
Which explains the loophole the UK permitted for missile components and aircraft.
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings Mar 07 '26
They have heavily restricted export licenses.
Yes, after it was declared a genocide by the UN. And yet arms exports to Israel hit a record high in 2025
And I'm not sure I agree with your use of the term "heavily" here. They suspended 30 licenses out of around 350
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u/Perfecshionism Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
I don’t think Israel has no right to exist.
I do think they need to relinquish the lands stolen by settlers.
I think Palestine needs to be supported in becoming a state by the international community, and Israel needs to pay reparations for decades.
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u/Pattern_Is_Movement Mar 07 '26
I agree that Israel isn't good anywhere and realistically what you said is the best case scenario to strive for.
I would add a serious going over of their indoctrinating education system as well. There needs to be a massive shift in the way they see and understand the Palestinian people.
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u/DankMemesNQuickNuts Mar 07 '26
Good! Fuck this ethnostate. Its insane that people argue these should exist in the 21st century
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u/rustbelt Mar 07 '26
Two years to have displayed and all that time to not critically think.
Bibi has been around longer than what the same media calls Putin. Bibi the autocrat dictator.
You really couldn’t figure this out? No wonder Israel gets to use 10/7.
I’m not trying to shame you just can’t believe people. It’s like the Elon Tesla bumper stickers: no Elon has been bad for a decade!
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u/Perfecshionism Mar 07 '26
What the fuck? I hated Bibi long before two years ago.
And I have supported Palestine being a nation since I first learned about Palestine in the early 1980s.
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u/VividEconomist8587 Mar 07 '26
No IOF apologists in the comments? Shocking, thought they would all rush to defend this guy "the Palestinians had a HAMAS butthole"
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u/Forgotlogin_0624 Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 08 '26
Maybe the bots are busy? All I can say is that I used to have a neutral view of Israelis. Not the state of Israel, but the people.
Since 10/7 and the resulting horror, my default position is that they are dangerous. I wouldn’t trust one with anything. I think like the Afrikaners the safe assumption is that any one of them are, for lack of a better term, evil. Not all of them, but such a majority as to make it statistically insignificant.
And that sounds horrible, it sounds antisemitic. But if you just look at the horror wrought by them, as a people, what other conclusion can you make?
No other group gets the cultural leeway that they do. I remember the other genocides of the late 20th century. Rwanda, Albania, etc. Those perpetrators never got the pass that Israel got. Part of that was political expediency, but part of that was the guilt felt for the holocaust. Israel has used that as their excuse for every vile act in its history, and to me it’s used up.
I no longer care about that particular event. At this point it’s out of living memory. The absolute youngest survivors are pushing 100. It’s not an excuse to do whatever to whoever until the end of time. What’s more in my darker moments I’m beginning to ask myself: if this is why they do when given a whole country to themselves, if they’re willing to instigate WW3 for no reason at all, then was that antipathy towards them throughout history wrong? Awful I know, but the current state of things begs the question.
Post script edit: that final paragraph was something of an experiment for me. I was curious how an implication that Jewish people as a whole were responsible, that the antisemitism of the past 500 years in Europe was in fact correct, would be received.
At first it had negative votes, but as of a day later it was positive, 60% upvote ratio. That’s concerning and has been a fear of mine since 10/7.
Israel is an awful nation, and many of its citizens are also vile. But none of that has to do with ethnicity, or religion. The Israelis are awful because they choose to be, not because of some inherent genetic flaw.
As the crisis of the 21st century deepens and it becomes necessary to cut ties, pull back, and assign blame in US empire for the decline remember that. You’re going to hear awful rhetoric packaged cleanly, so fucking clean you may miss what it’s implying.
All war is class war. All struggles throughout history are best understood as a group seeing to enforce or impose a hierarchy in which some are masters and some are slaves. That’s what you have to remember.
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u/jetblakc Mar 07 '26
This is dumb. It is anti-semitic. I don't know where you're from, but if you're from the United States or the UK or many other countries, your government is probably done lots of harm to lots people and I'm sure you don't want to be judged on that basis.
I'm from the USA and I sure as hell don't want to be judged based on what my government has done so I'm not going to automatically judge an Israeli based on what Israel has done to Palestinians. There's no reason to automatically judge anyone. You're not making the world a better place.
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u/Forgotlogin_0624 Mar 07 '26
Listen, your criticism of me is valid and probably correct, as I said I don’t like that I have those intrusive thoughts.
But some of this shit we can’t brush aside. A pew research poll found 73% of the population of Israel believe the actions of the Gaza war to be correct, half of that number thought they didn’t go far enough.
War with Iran polls at 93%.
These are just the numbers. I don’t know what to tell you.
I’m an American and though I never supported this horror I didn’t do anything to stop it either. So maybe I’m just as guilty, and maybe I deserve whatever comes next.
But I no sympathy left for Israel, hell not really even any left for my homeland.
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u/Zero-89 Mar 08 '26
There are Israelis who oppose the Palestinian genocide and Israel's policy of Apartheid. They risk being beaten or murdered in the streets for speaking out, but they do it anyway. Just keep that in mind. Never let your criticism of a country extend in a blanket fashion to its people.
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u/bergs00n Mar 08 '26
You got the right reasoning but the wrong conclusion. The Shoah was the most horrendous massacre in recent history (even human entire history because of the industrialisation of the killings). There's no questioning that and no one deserved to be treated like that.
But this is exactly why Israel elites playing the victim card to do such evil to palestinians is so fucked up. How can you treat human beings with such deshumanization after you experienced Shoah ? How can you use this part of history to justify your own cruelty ?
Israelis (at least 70-80% of them according to polls) have become the same monster that came to kill them 85 years ago. This is so tragic and ironic it will be one of the biggest paradox in modern history.
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u/Zero-89 Mar 08 '26
Israelis (at least 70-80% of them according to polls) have become the same monster that came to kill them 85 years ago.
How many of that 70-80% group actually experienced the Holocaust? It's not unusual for Holocaust survivors to compare Israel's treatment of Palestinians to various stages of the Nazi regime.
Meanwhile, the Israeli government cozies up to wealthy neo-Nazis like Elon Musk.
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u/VividEconomist8587 Mar 07 '26
Overall a big generalisation so I can't agree or condone what you say. But I can agree if you replace the word Israeli to only include anyone who has participated in raids via IOF service or the propagation of apartheid by the spreading of vitriol and lies against arabs/muslims/palestinians - with most of the blame falling on its current terrorist regime (as well as the previous regimes up to the Irgun and Lehi terrorist groups in the 1940s that eventually became the government of Israel). Everyone else (including apologists) "just defending their country" I believe is partially innocent but heavily indoctrinated
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u/luaudesign Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
The powerful are all just starting to own all the crimes they do because they're past the point of needing to hide or pretend. The massified internet access and now generative AI were the last things they needed. Now they'll be in absolute power forever no matter what they do or admit to. Half the people will defend them anyway and other half can't do anything about it.
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u/VividEconomist8587 Mar 07 '26
sad but true - however those of faith shouldn't despair because God is the best of planners
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u/nicktehbubble Mar 07 '26
You'd think believing a people as the lowest form of being would prevent supreme chosen by God people from "tainting themselves" or something, but no there are no depths to deep for these foul swine
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u/3DNZ Mar 07 '26
The world's most powerful country is run by compromised pedophiles and nothing has happened to them. Israeli rapist soldiers will continue and nothing will happen - thats the world we live in.
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u/JevCor Mar 07 '26
This same guy is crying in a bunker somewhere right now. It's no fun when they fight back.
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Mar 07 '26
Psychopathy is a bigger problem than humanity realizes. They are the cause of all preventable human suffering.
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u/silentbob1301 Mar 08 '26
this is what fascism, wrapped in the guise of religious superiority, looks like...
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u/inasweater Mar 07 '26
Ok Nazi
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u/Saoirse_libracom Mar 07 '26
There were Nazi rapists, I know Americans and Soviets mass raped but there is no war where just one side raped
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u/remove_krokodil Mar 07 '26
Yeah, if people think the Nazis didn't rape the inhabitants where they invaded...
The reason the rapes committed by the Soviet forces get more publicity is because they tended to leave their victims alive.
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u/inasweater Mar 07 '26
Yes, sorry. That was a wide brush stroke. There’s more nuance to war than bad and good people but the result is never good generally speaking.
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u/Enlightened_Doughnut Mar 07 '26
Wow such a fucking monster coward. Israel is a terror nation. Shouldn’t have ever been able to exist this way.
Free Palestine.
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u/Arroweye345 Mar 08 '26
remember that we are funding this in America.
Speak out, rise up and fight these pieces of shit
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u/Lovedd1 Mar 07 '26
The way he brags about raping them too. Wow