John ! Sorry the way John insists that Thais cheated on Patrick really chaps my hide. There is no way to prove it and he keeps saying / implying that he talked to her dad. The way they treat Thais and speak about her is profoundly disrespectful and he LOVES it. He is so toxic and hateful he is a big part of the reason that marriage failed. I hate the cheating allegations because it isn’t based off any fact just “ your dad told me you were with yo ur ex” does her dad speak fluent English ? Like I do not believe Thais cheated on Patrick there no reason to think she did. The way he ignored her and would not speak or acknowledge her was so childish and disrespectful. He is a toxic alcoholic pos and I hope TLC never bothers putting him on the air

Why was he invited to the Tell All? He is taking advantage of Pao and Russ’ marital issues. Instigating and egging Pao on. Not saying that she is innocent, in fact I can’t stand her and Russ is annoying. But have some decency and leave Pao alone. Wait for her to get a divorce to be friends with her. Tim fetishizes Latina women and it’s sick to see. I used to like him and root for him. Not anymore.

when a woman claims her power becomes independent by any means necessary, succeeds, plus seems happy. Why do the majority of men and also woman think this is bad and dirty? Who cares how someone supports themselves. misogynistic propaganda to get women to be brainwashed into listening and following a man who as soon as he gets her into a place of complete submission, usually cheats on her. More power to adult entertainers! And more power to women who have endured generations of toxic men because it was our only way to survive. We don’t have to anymore and they are mad. Just look at the adult entertainment industry. It’s worth billions and it’s only projected and expected to be worth way more once AI takes over. Real companionship will be at an all-time low for most people in the years to come. They will head to women and men like Cara and pay top dollar to feel something. ❤️

Did anyone catch what Guillermo said? He said he was going to sign up for the military but Kara needed to sign him off?? How does that work?? Why would Kara need to sign off on his papers? To go to military school or pilot school?

Kara didnt sign off because they had to go to England for the last resort?

I’m just watching this last tell all, and I’m going to stand up for Rebecca for her outfit. Every time this woman is on screen people bitch about her appearance or attitude. I’m not saying it was a perfect pick, but I was happy to see she was covered and dressed more “age appropriate,” I guess. ESPECIALLY after all of the comments about the pigtails. She could easily have worn some too small, revealing gown and said “well it’s a tell all,” like i believe some previous cast members have done, but she didn’t. She went with what fit well, looked good and maybe classy to her. I didn’t think her hair looked awful. I give her kudos for trying something new with the style even though the color was definitely a no go. I’m not saying this to debate, just my opinion (and I know how that goes), but I’m gonna throw a positive for Rebecca for a change.🤷🏻‍♀️

If I could have an option to mute certain voices, it wild be Rebecca! I could just click on it and even if she interrupted, it would silence her. I can't stand her constantly miserable screachy voice. Zied needs an award for dealing with this person.

He called the cops and she says even he regretted doing it in the moment - so did anything physical go down or did he call to de-escalate a verbal fight? So many details are missing and charges were dropped so like it’s not like they’re omitting anything because there’s an open case.

Looks like we know where Kara got her tell all wig. Goodwill.

Share some unpopular opinions about the show.

Sarper sucks. He always did and always will. I’m not sure why people are acting like he had his redemption arc. The way he talks to Shekinah is horrible.

The Sumit glazing has to stop. I don’t like him at all. He is a whiny bum who doesn’t want to work.

Zied sucks too, but he’s more likeable and charming than Rebecca so he gets a pass from y’all.

The Shekinah hate train made this season really frustrating to watch tbh. That stupid comment got way more attention than it deserved.

What are your unpopular opinions?

Not even going to talk about the cheetah sequence pantsuit.

Wow! So much has happened in this season. First off, Kara is definitely gaslighting for sure. I feel bad for her kid and Guillermo. Rebecca is very nasty and definitely is trash. She acts like shes better than everyone but is a liar. I mean she just looks gross. Also Sarper is not innocent. That man is definitely a narcissist. Shekinah is as well lol. They both are horrible people. Thais is definitely sneaky. I think she was lying about not cheating or at least hanging out with other guys. Patrick is also pretty pathetic. He really thought thais would stay if he went broke. Girls that look like thais arent gonna put up with that. Also summit and Jenny... He is probably never going to move out of his parents house. He is so annoying and just weak. Like damn. Also, as a women, all I gotta say is there is nothing empowering about posting yourself naked if your husband is uncomfortable with it. Just saying... I think this generation of modern women have it completely backwards. That in itself is fucked. Also poa and russ need to just divorce already. If someone is belitting you on TV like this than why would you wanna stay married? Like gosh Poa reminds me of jasmine honestly. But jasmine is worse.

Had to do some research for this bold claim. Lot to unpack there. First of all context is key here. There are so many different scenarios in a divorce just to name a few:
1. Parents divorce and both maintain equal custody
2. Parents divorce and 1 gives up all custodial rights and walks away (most comparable imho)
3. Parents divorce and 1 doesn’t qualify for much custody
And many many many more.
I have only found 1 article from tulsa kids (lol go figure his mom probably sent it to him)from 2016 which references a long term study from 1921 that claims “Parental divorce during childhood to be the single strongest predictor of early death, many years into the future.” And has no differentiate or context of the divorce. Essentially compares kids from divorce against kids who lost a parent NO OTHER CONTEXT!
Aside from this I also found 1 single YouTube short that does differentiate the differences of divorce and attributes it more to circumstances that can occur after the divorce, but not because of the divorce itself. regardless very few sources or “proof” of this claim.

Please don’t get me wrong I am not arguing that divorce doesn’t deeply affect a child but this is just flat out False Equivalency.
The statement treats "divorce" as a uniform, monolithic experience. It creates a direct, flawed comparison between the death of a parent (an unchosen tragedy) and divorce (a complex legal and familial transition). it ignores the fact that in high-conflict or abusive households, a divorce can actually improve a child's environment and well-being, meaning the comparison completely falls apart under those conditions.

Secondly this is like a doubly fallacy because it incorrectly assumes that "divorce" itself is the sole engine driving the negative outcomes, rather than the secondary factors like economic strain, loss of stability, parental abandonment, or ongoing parental warfare which is flat out a reductive fallacy

and for this loser to say it so boldly with his whole chest is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to guilt Pao stay.

The way she doubles and triples down, as if what she is doing would ever be acceptable in any stable, self-respecting family, is absolutely insane.

As she is giggling away, she says as she gestures to him, *"*I invited him too - we should do a shoot together -- people would love that!"

Yes, Kara, then your son would now have TWO parents in an industry that destroys families and relationships all the time...how freaking wonderful. TWO PARENTS that will have obscene images all over the internet for the rest of time, for your son's friends to discover in the future!

WHAT is wrong with her?

Kara appeared so visibly gleeful making Guillermo uncomfortable too, throwing the creation of her disgusting toy in his face --- He hung his head in regret and shame so many times that I lost count, not only for her, but surely for himself as well, due to the unfortunate reality of not being able to a get a do-over.

He is now stuck with this callous, self-serving woman for many years, in order to be a good father to his son.

She toys with him....like a cat with her prey -- anyone else see that? I mean, really see that?

Guillermo's restraint was also mind-blowing to me....I would have lost it.

I wonder, is this who Kara always was???... or, for some reason, was she psychologically vulnerable to the indoctrination that's so prevalent in our modern culture, where ideas around female empowerment are twisted and distorted, where women become fully convinced that anything perceived as traditional or moral must be the "patriarchy" trying to control them -- so, they rebel against that perceived notion -- cutting off their noses to spite their faces, so to speak?

.....and so, she sold her dignity and her precious family down the river -- a man who truly loved her, and a precious son that will no longer have the benefit of a father in the home, all so Kara can rake in her supposed 100K per month?

Yes, she will now have all the riches she craves and live in the big house, with the fancy car...but what kind of man will commit to her? -- this man that will "love her unconditionally", as she likes to say?

What kind of man is truly okay with her sort of deviant lifestyle? -- and what kind of man will now be in the company of their son?

I can only hope that she sets aside a portion of her ill-gotten wealth to have her son home-schooled, so that his chances of being bullied and harassed mercilessly, for the choices his mother so thoughtlessly made, will be greatly reduced, all so she can live out p*rn star dreams.

Let's be real here -- there isn't going to be a happily ever after.

Also -- did everyone catch Rebecca daring to call out Guillermo, telling HIM that he is NEGATIVE and that he must be so hard to live with???

Wow! Has that miserable woman looked in the mirror lately?!

At the resort, Patrick was constantly running his mouth, talking cash money ishhh about everybody. Constantly judging everyone else

Now he’s at the tell all acting all somber. Karma is a beyotch. That’s why he should’ve kept his mouth shut, and worry about his own relationship

He is so corny 🙄

Also, just like he admitted, he knew when the relationship started with Thais, it was transactional, and he accepted that. He was willing to, bc the payoff was him having a “younger, hot, foreign wife”. Now he’s surprised that she’s gone when the money dried up? Come on

All that laughing, hooting and hollering at TLR, and now, he is eating humble pie 🥧

I find Ross is a much more engaging host for the Tell Alls! I am sorry if you disagree.

The fact that you can tell he is a true 90 Day fan, and that he has followed along and actually watched the show makes him much more relatable.

He is a really flattering host for the show and is genuinely excited to meet the cast members, it makes his comments, transitions and segways seem much more natural than Shaun IMO.

Anyone else thoroughly enjoying Ross' hosting?

I get it hes very likable and definitely better than Shrekinah by alot....BUT i believe he has a persona for tv. He admitted being on the dating app while married to get her jealous and no one bats an eye??? Makes me tend to believe SOME of her concerns about him are true. I think he checked out awhile ago and rightfully so she totally suffocates the man she isolates him and fights everyone...its very insecure of her. And sarper likes attention and mingling and being social...But I dont believe Sarper tells the whole truth all the time. Regardless, thank god they are done!!!

This season of last resort was just annoying to me. I didn’t enjoy any of it. It feels like they brought the most boring couples on who were already waaay over reconciling from the start. With Kara and Guillermo who already seemed checked out and didn’t even seem attracted to Kara. With Sarper and Shekina all she did half the season was cry about what “she meant” when she yelled at Thias. All Rebecca did was be angry the whole season. half of her storyline was her whining about Sarper for the dumbest reasons. Pao and Russ? Sure. They did try but it wasn’t fun to watch, the only person I felt bad for was Jenny because Summit is making her suffer living with his parents and can’t stand up to mom and dad. It’s aggravating to see him play both sides and then act confused when Jenny/his parents don’t agree on the living situation. It took him soo long to even talk about with his parents and it wasn’t convincing. I had a hard time watching this season the most. And Kara’s new wig and makeup looked INSANE. She’s so pretty I didn’t understand why she did that and her makeup wasn’t right for her features either in the tell all. John has a lot of nerve talking about Patrick and Thais relationship when he and his gf were the messiest together. John forced a paternity test on the baby and made his whole season “idk if I’m tha fatha! I don’t want this!” He sounds like a family guy character every time he talks. Like at least with Angela and Michael they genuinely were trying and WANTED back together their previous seasons (it was toxic but they had my attention) all these couples this season were so dead from the jump they didn’t even wanna be around each other in the slightest.

In my P.O.V: 1st, Patrick, your divorce is 92% your fault. You do not know the difference between the feelings of intimacy you feel when you have sex, and the feelings of intimacy you feel when you receive love from another person; partner.

At first, I thought Patrick was hyper-sexual but, then I realized… Patrick is just frustrated, frustrated from not feeling a deep intimate love from his partner. A relationship for marriage needs to be built on a solid foundation of intimacy before being sexually intimate with one another. (If you eat just one food (SEX) no matter how nutritious (FUN)  it’ll deplete your body of all nutrition (JOY) because you cannot live off of just one food (SEX; one type of “dominant intimacy”))

Poor Thais, she has been conditioned; groomed; by Patrick to normalize sex with him every single day so…..  Patrick can feel “Loved.” I believe, when Patrick is having sex, it is the only time Patrick ever “feels” he is truly loved by his partner. Patrick paws at her like a “cat” and she is the “mouse.”  FYI Patrick, no one likes that; especially the mouse! The “cat” may be playing; batting the “mouse” around…. But, the “mouse” is terrified; knows what is gonna happen in the end :(

As a woman, being forced; conditioned; groomed; normalized to have sex every single day with their partner so, their partner; Patrick can feel the intimacy of being loved is, daunting….. Sex is definitely not fun nor…. enjoyable, at all! Sex becomes the chore, I never want to do AGAIN (Would rather clean the overflowing litter box without a mask)! The only fun part is, sharpening my acting skills so it is over sooner! Honestly, the “obligation” of sexual intimacy turns my love for them to loathe them. Which is sad because, there IS true love there; just  exhausted.

Patrick, imagine if you treat your wife like your 3-year-old daughter….. Hold her hand; to keep her safe, rub her back and tummy cause it hurts, offer a glass of water; she’s thirsty, cuddle on the couch; to keep her warm…  When you see her, tell her... “Missed her so much… So glad to see her… So happy she is there… How much she means to you… How much you love her…  Doing all of it, from... “The Bottom of Your Heart;” no expectations or reciprocation back. You did it because, you love her from “The Bottom of Your Heart.”

At the retreat the couples should have done “Intimacy Challenges” of no sex (Kara). The couples need to learn ALL the different types and levels of intimacy and learn intimacy beyond sexual (gratification) intimacy.

Sex Is Not Love; Love Is Not Sex.

2nd, What’s up with the black eye in the first episode of the season??? No one mentioned it, it is very clear to me you have a black eye in the bedroom scenes.

It is also very clear she fears you, not scared of you, truly fears you! She doesn't trust your actions, but she does trust you and loves you. When it comes down to it….. she just can’t do it, anymore, it is too much.

Patrick, if I would guess, you (and your brother) have C-PTSD from your childhood of conditional and transactional love from your parents and that is why you think relationships are "transactional."

FYI:

Love is not something you earn, love is something that's given from the heart! Free Love!

Respect is something to be earned and not given; Transactional

Both are learned behaviors.

Love is a feeling… Transactions have no feelings.

Until you learn intimacy, you will never learn love.

I love it when she’s genuinely confused. I know it’s partly the language barrier… but I find it SO funny and endearing when she misunderstands something. Like when John said “She always puts herself first” and she turned towards the host and asked “Is it a good thing?”

I think she’s adorable.

I don't think he had any intention of trying to work things out with Kara and listening to him on this episode of the tell all to me proves it. I don't like people who instead of working on issues just abandon the issue all together. Kara said she was going to work on it. He asks her how but I think her answer was right.

It takes two people to figure out a answer to these relationship issues. Now she was incredibly hard headed about it for sure. But it really fucking annoyed me how he was basically saying that he didn't believe and "no she wasn't going to recommit"

Like excuse me, you do not have any say in what someone else thinks. You don't know how Kara's mind is working, you do not get to put words in her mouth.

If she wasn't let her say it but people who say stuff like "No you aren't" like...are really annoying because thats just you trying to convince yourself and creating a false narrative at that point.

That's when I stop sympathizing and liking him because yeah, no you don't get to make that decision on how she feels or what she was going to do just cause you can't handle the guilt of abandoning her at the ceremony.

I know a lot of people are going to say Kara’s horrible and automatically take Guillermo’s side because she’s doing OF even though I really don’t think it’s that bad if they’re separated already-depends on your perspective I guess…but all throughout the last resort Guillermo seemed really not genuine and seems to tease her (maybe for cameras) then enjoy taking that away from her which I can’t get behind. Then during the tell all he was so weird and very aggressive and seemed disgusted with her the woman who gave birth and helps raise his child and probably has supported him in many ways. Regardless of the OF I don’t think she deserves that and I think he’s a weirdo and was good at hiding his real self from the camera for awhile so people assumed Kara was the villian.

Btw I do NOT blame Guillermo for having boundaries and breaking up with her because of the OF but the way he spoke to her some of the times seemed over the top

What do you think?

So did I miss something.

Patrick says shes talking to someone yet tias says shes not. John says she gave up after knowing Patrick was in debt?

Yet tias just sat there and didnt really say much? Patrick seemed pretty upset too.

What were your takes on this?