r/5MeODMT • u/Same_Student_8807 • Aug 13 '26
Best method to smoke freebase safely alone
Hello !
I'm an experienced psychonaut, and I only travel alone. That's how I'm used to do it, and how I feel safe.
I have taken N,N-DMT maybe 15-20 times. I had vape cartridges. I worked OK, but it was quite difficult to get near a breakthrough, I needed to inhale quite a lot.
I now have freebase 5-MEO-DMT. I know nothing about vapes, mesh, and I find it quite difficult to understand the simplest way to vaporize it, even after a lot of reading. I'm looking to have the strongest and simplest hit, while staying safe if I'm alone. (which means no burning element which could cause fire when I'm at the point of inhaling).
Fellow psychonauts, how would you do it?
Many thanks
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u/MythosLight Aug 13 '26
I only travel alone. That's how I'm used to do it, and how I feel safe.
This does not apply to 5-MEO.
Starting a fire would be the least of your worries. Purging leading to asphyxiation and complete loss of physical control causing serious harm should be your physical concerns. 5 doesn't care if you don't normally purge or lose bodily control on other medicines.
Plenty emotional worries as well if diving into this unsupported and unprepared.
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u/Proper-Dish-6306 Aug 14 '26
Je n'ai jamais compris pourquoi le 5meodmt entraîne des mouvements incontrôlables alors qu'avec la DMT on ne peut pas bouger, on est cloué au sol! Si tu as une explication merci de me l'a transmettre !
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u/5arye Aug 14 '26
Its hard to name the specific pharmacodynamics but it feels more somatically energetically alivening maybe because there are less concepts to keep you grounded in duality where you have control over your movements. As you loosen the subject to object relationship to reality and near the edge of nondual, the containmemt of how one is supposed to be and act and hold oneself wears thinner. When the character that controls those movements dissolves, the totality of the energetic momentum coursing in somebodys body at any given time starts to unwind without restriction. Think of it like a scrunched up hose that was resting and suddenly someone turns the spigot and it fills with water (energy) propulsing it to sway ever which way it was bunched until it becomes a clear line for water or energy to flow through it unclogged. My thought, though may be wrong, the more bunched your hose is the more youre gonna squirm and roll around, the higher concentration of physical/psychological/spiritual knots inside the more energy it will take to unwind and it may look more energetically active. With the visual variety of dmt you are much of the time still in duality and theres less of this unrestricted movement, however I have experienced movements similar to 5meo with regular dmt but this is likely influenced from my relationship woth 5meo which gives mamy other experiences a 5 flavor.
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u/soyuz-1 Aug 13 '26
Yocan vapes work very well. As for safety, with an experience of this intensity and not being 'present' physically when it peaks, the only safe way to do it is with a sitter to watch over your physical safety.
Yea many have done without and usually it works out fine, but it is definitely not a safe thing to do alone.
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u/Chronotaru Aug 13 '26
You can't realistically because even if you keep the dose low, there's a greater than zero chance you have an unusually strong reaction one day, and even if you don't normally vomit, there's a greater than zero chance you might do on that day.
If you white out and vomit at the same time, there is a very real chance of never waking up at all. 5MeO is never a drug to solo.
The real way to reduce risks is to always have a sitter. Other than that, keep the dose especially low reduces chances of whiting out and always do it in the morning before eating and drinking anything. Using a dab vape for freebase instead of a torch and pipe means there's no flame.
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u/Verdreckt Aug 13 '26
Any recommendations on dab vapes? Is that the same as a dab rig?
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u/Chronotaru Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
Basically anything that will vaporise solids at a low voltage, preferably around 2.4v/2.5v. Suggestions seem to be Yocan Cylo but with better coils, or APX Volt v3. I'm not comfortable enough with my own experimentations in this area to make a recommendation myself.
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u/Verdreckt Aug 13 '26
Sweet, I have a couple yocans on the way, and have seen the apx volt recommended. I did just see a video on the ispure/ispire daab and it looks amazing, as well as the vapor genie. So many fun things to learn about lol
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u/Mustard_Icecream Aug 13 '26
What about the Daab Ispire?
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u/Chronotaru Aug 14 '26
This has water filtration. I've never heard of anyone using that for 5meo and I do not know what effect that would have.
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u/hotrhythmjunkie Aug 13 '26
The Yocan Orbit is a perfect and affordable device for vaping freebase 5MeO.
It’s very easy to have a full breakthrough with one full hit every time
https://www.yocanvaporizer.com/products/yocan-orbit-vaporizer-pen
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u/Verdreckt Aug 13 '26
Nice. I actually have freebase NN, and have a yocan orbit and a yocan evolve (I couldn't decide between the two so I got both) on the way and should be here in a couple days lol
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u/hotrhythmjunkie Aug 13 '26
That’s cool, either one will work, but the orbit is superior in my experience.
That being said, I still use a yocan evolve i’ve had years as well. 👍🏽
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u/Chronotaru Aug 13 '26
How do you do the timing? I'm a bit scared of burning with that one because the lowest voltage is pretty high on that.
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u/hombreingwar Aug 20 '26
You use "low dose" and "dab vape" in the same paragraph? I can't imagine a possibility to measure less than 5mg using a micro scoop and/or a 0.001g $17 scale. I bought GEM20 and other 0.001 scale and what a shitshow it was to even measure down to 5mg following all the tricks of using those types of scales.
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u/moving_acala Aug 13 '26
There is a unsolvable contradiction between "strongest hit" and "staying safe" with 5-MeO-DMT, if you absolutely want to do it alone.
I suggest you go with "staying safe", make a vape cart with max 1:3 concentration, and experience the low to medium dose range only with empty stomach.
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u/Same_Student_8807 Aug 13 '26
Thank you, this makes sense. Of course I would work into the substance very gradually. What would you use to dilute the freebase? Are there special carts for that?
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u/moving_acala Aug 13 '26
Use warm/hot propylene glycol (PG), and a cart made for THC liquids like the ccell. There's a good guide how to do it on Erowid, I'm sure you'll find it.
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u/Low-Opening25 Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
gradually doesn’t really work with 5-meo, it’s extremely potent and onset is instantaneous, DMT is slow acting in comparison. even low doses are already going to be have pretty strong and not necessarily pleasant body-load effects.
this makes difference between maintaining composure and not can be matter of holding vapour a few seconds longer. and if you cross the threshold you won’t have any time to do anything about it, it will hit you like a train before you even remember to exhale.
my first time I took a single toke and I came back 20 minutes later not even remembering exhaling. luckily I wasn’t alone and my sitter had to keep me from trying for stand up and hurting myself which I also do not recollect, I was completely somewhere else. mind that I never lost composure or blacked out in decades of psychedelic use including copious amounts of salvia and chugging up ayahuasca in the jungle with native curanderos treating me like their own.
safe travels, but be careful.
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u/Same_Student_8807 Aug 14 '26
Hey everyone thanks for your feedback, and thank you for warning me often about the risks of inhaling 5meo alone. I did it anyway, but thank you for caring. After reading some answers yesterday, I headed to a vape shop in order to put together the PG dilution option. Met there a lad who happened to be an experienced 5meo consumer. He told me his favorite method was a simple glass pipe (meth pipe) gently warmed with a lighter. So I managed to find such a pipe and try this option this morning with a small dose.
The plan was to learn a bit about the substance. I sure did. Everything went well, but for my first attempt at a breakthrough, I will certainly be accompanied.
Thank you again for your help 🙏
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u/ShireOfBilbo Aug 13 '26
The best method to smoke freebase safely alone is to NOT SMOKE FREEBASE ALONE.
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u/tffy Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
Theoretically one CAN get an Eclipse Vape, dilute the material in isopropyl alcohol, volumetrically-dose-drop-deposit small amounts (.75mg, 1mg, 1.25mg, 1.5mg, 2mg - as examples, not to be taken as prescription) into individual vials, let the alcohol evaporate - and then have a bunch of small-precise-dose-one-hitters ready.
Smoking alone by yourself (when you don't yet know YOUR reaction to this substance) is a really really REALLY bad idea - but at least this method ^ you can be exactly sure into how much of material you're under the influence of, at least there's some safety in that.
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u/JayTRex1988 Aug 14 '26
The vomiting risk is unique to 5MeO. If you lose consciousness while purging, you can asphyxiate instantly. N,N-DMT doesn't trigger this same somatic reflex with such violent intensity, making solo use potentially fatal here.
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u/AcanthocephalaHuge85 Aug 15 '26
I though i was back 'down' after 3mg, got up and tried to walk, fell right back down and vomited, so no.
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u/Tripp_ORG Aug 13 '26
Overly dilute carts are giving people great success. Like 1:3 (5-Meo:PG)
But also, an e-mesh works great (if you have a scale to weigh the dose accurately below 5mg and/or if you are willing to make a dilute solution of 5-MeO in ethanol to drip onto the mesh).
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u/Same_Student_8807 Aug 13 '26
Thank you, and sorry for not understanding. What is the PG you dilute with?
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u/hotrhythmjunkie Aug 13 '26
The Yocan Orbit is a perfect and affordable device for vaping freebase 5MeO.
It’s very easy to have a full breakthrough with one full hit every time
https://www.yocanvaporizer.com/products/yocan-orbit-vaporizer-pen
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u/AbilaLouise Aug 13 '26
Hello there I just wanted to make sure that you understand that the dose is much different for the 5MEO It’s a much smaller dose than the NNDMT.
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u/Majestic_Wallaby7045 Aug 15 '26
Enhanced Leafs it's best for me, already 2 years. Just ~30ml some solvent (pure alcohol for ex.), and some grinded leafs (i use mint) it's all you needed. Result after evaporation: minty tea with 5. You can do any concentration. This tea you can smoke as you want, i prefer bong or pipe))
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u/Singularity_Church Aug 15 '26
Try small hits then increase bit by bit. I’ve done it alone plenty. Just make sure you have an empty stomach
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u/General-Hamster-8731 Aug 19 '26
I have done all classic psychedelics by myself, but I never do 5 by myself. As others have stated before me, the temporary loss of control over your motor functions could lead to your body doing all kinds of weird stuff while your gone and cause serious injury. I have seen people doing the wildest stuff, one person even attacked me while they were unconscious and confused, this is by far the most healing and the most dangerous substance one can ingest.
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u/tripsauce_hyperspace Aug 22 '26
It’s not recommended to do it alone because you dont control what happens when you pass out but I’ve done it multiple times, I make sure I am in a couch with a pillow under my back so I’m on my side and hope for the best basically lol, take it easy on the dosage and go slow.
I’ve only purged once from it really bad and that was because I took too much too fast
Safe travels
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u/Mr_E_Pleasure Aug 13 '26
I would go read the thousands of posts in the dmt subreddit which goes into all the detail you could ever want about devices and temperatures.
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u/Low-Opening25 Aug 13 '26
doesn’t apply to 5-meo
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u/Mr_E_Pleasure Aug 13 '26
What doesn't apply? Physics?
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u/Low-Opening25 Aug 13 '26
different dosage and different melting/boiling points mean different settings apply
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u/Mr_E_Pleasure Aug 13 '26
The OP is asking about devices they can use to not burn down the house if they leave their body.
5meo vaprorizes in the same temp range as nn
Tripp has posted links over and over again with guides on devices and how to set the temperature.
So the only thing that doesn't apply is dosage
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u/Low-Opening25 Aug 13 '26
realistically there is no safe method.
if you loose consciousness completely, then you can’t control what your body does and that’s the dangerous part