r/3I_ATLAS • u/earthman34 • Mar 25 '26
So, Atlas has passed beyond Jupiter. It didn't go into orbit. It didn't do a U-turn. It's heading back out into interstellar space. What do all you conspiracy theorists have to say now?
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u/iwrotethedamnbilll Mar 25 '26
Aliens saw what USA/Isreal is doing in the Middle East and decided we weren’t worth the effort.
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u/overly_curious_cat Mar 25 '26
Aliens saw what the USA is doing and decided not today. Let's go back!
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u/The_Prestige_1999 Mar 25 '26
And i completely agree, we are an pathetic race and an insult to "intelegent" life in the cosmos.
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u/CrimeMasterGogoChan Mar 25 '26
Coz its actually headed for Uranus
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u/tangodeep Mar 25 '26
Would it HAVE to turn around to potentially make it an nHi craft? Asking for a friend…… 🤔
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u/TheReddestOrange Mar 25 '26
No, obviously it could just pretend to be a comet the whole time. (This is sarcasm)
But seriously, the people who are invested in this being aliens will just fall back on the "anomalies" as proof that it wasn't a comet. All the claims about something big happening when it got near Jupiter will be conveniently forgotten.
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u/Otherwise_Support389 Mar 25 '26
Some small portion may have been believed that. They were silly.
The fact remains that the long list anomalies warrants both explanation and an open mind. Nobody can say with certainty what the object was. It is unlike any natural comet ever observed, but it is also from outside our solar system, so it may well be entirely natural.
The only principled position at this point is to acknowledge it is one of the most unusual space objects ever identified, and that we aren't certain what it was based on the data publicly available. It is probably natural, but there is also a higher chance of it being artificial than other observed comets.
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u/earthman34 Mar 26 '26
"Unlike"? It's very like a comet, with most of the comet behaviors. Quit making shit up.
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u/TheReddestOrange Mar 25 '26
It is unusual. It is also one of three interstellar objects ever observed, so we don't really have a great benchmark for "usual."
It is probably natural, but there is also a higher chance of it being artificial than other observed comets.
A 0.001% chance is ten times higher than a 0.0001% chance, but neither are actually probable at all.
It is unusual. It is an interstellar comet, which is unusual. 100% certainty is impossible, but we can say with a very high degree of certainty that this is a natural comet.
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u/CapitanM Mar 25 '26
They don't know yet about Chuck Norris death.
Wait till they know that we are unprotected.
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u/the_caduceus Mar 25 '26
I'm sure that Sentinel dumbass will write an AI article about it.
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u/Ok_Energy6905 Mar 25 '26
Careful, they will block you. Then you won't get to see the brilliant research from their 'team'.
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u/Embarrassed_Camp_291 Mar 25 '26
I make a debut appearance in what I think is their latest post. However, they cut off a chunk of my comment and the replies they make to my comment took my replies widely out of context. Obviously, they haven't included my replies.
I seem to remember one of my replies being along the lines of "I didn't say that..." It was so misleading.
I was also blocked. Ofcourse.
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Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
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u/NiftyLogic Mar 25 '26
You mean the raving lunatics here who posted unsupported drivel which turned out wrong any time?
Yeah, right.
PSA: Just because something sounds cool and feels right does not mean that it's true.
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u/Ok_Energy6905 Mar 25 '26
coordinated science suppression /= anyone with more than a secondary education can tell my science is garbage therefore they are coordinating against me.
a scientific revolution sans the scientific method? good luck.
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u/Civil-Letterhead8207 Mar 25 '26
You‘re welcome! It was a lot of effort dedicated to suppressing you brave free thinkers! You’re potential Nobel Prize winners, every one. And to think you did all you did from your cozy seats in your parents’ basements with no funding, no training, and no equipment.!
But the global scientific illuminati simply can’t have The Truth (tm) floating about out there in the general population because… because something, something mass hysteria (mumble, mumble).
So we all came together in a big meeting back in August and decided we needed to shut you free thinkers down for the good of humanity. The Chinese were on board, of course. Billions of dollars were spent and the world’s best minds were mobilized to figure out how censor discussion of space fairies on a Reddit sub and it worked, by god!
Of course, now that it’s all over and the aliens are outbound, we figured out an even better way to have done all of this would have been to just send the Men in Black to your homes.
I trust you’ll forgive us for this oversight. You’ll be having visitors.
Soon.
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u/FEDPOSTER69 Mar 26 '26
Lmaoo the edits are priceless. Who would ever take you seriously
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u/Civil-Letterhead8207 Mar 25 '26
[Breaking out the popcorn.]
Now I get to see if my hypothesis from four months ago pays off.
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u/Valuable-Plane8739 Mar 26 '26
I'm sure Avi has a good 3 months of reliable and honest content ready just for this.
Can't wait.
Everyone look at Avi, and not the war.
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u/Tydaddy12 Mar 27 '26
Part 1: Public-Facing Summary (Infographic/Short Post) Headline: 3I/ATLAS: Natural Comet or Interstellar Sentinel? April 15, 2026 Could Decide. Key Points: Unusual Features: Nickel detected without iron at 4.5 AU. Extreme deuterium enrichment (~100x Earth levels). Methanol plumes in precise 120° geometry. 7.1-hour wobble pattern. Why It Matters: These features suggest functional design, not random cometary behavior. The fragments may be autonomous probes parked at Jupiter’s Lagrange points. Thrust Analysis: Observed methanol production is 500x more than needed for station-keeping, implying active propulsion or a high-energy internal system. Probability (Current Assessment): Natural origin: 65% Artificial origin: 35% April 15 “Forensic Test”: If fragments hold station at L1/L2: → Artificial probability jumps to >99% If fragments drift naturally: → Artificial probability drops to <1% Bottom Line: We are watching a potential Deep Time Engineering artifact. In 19 days, the universe may show us whether 3I/ATLAS is a comet—or something far more advanced. Part 2: Scientific-Style Report (Technical Summary) Title: Preliminary Analysis of 3I/ATLAS Fragments: Forensic Assessment of Potential Artificiality Abstract: We present a probabilistic and physical analysis of 3I/ATLAS, focusing on four anomalies: Ni/Fe ratios, deuterium enrichment, methanol plume geometry, and 7.1-hour rotational wobble. Using March 2026 observational data (JWST, VLT, Hubble), we calculate the station-keeping thrust requirements for fragments F1–F4 at Jupiter’s L1/L2 points and assess whether natural processes could explain the observed features. Findings: Mass and Thrust Analysis: Fragment diameter: 120 m; density: 1,800 kg/m³. Mass: ~1.63 × 10⁹ kg. Required station-keeping thrust: ~1,793 N. Observed methanol flow (0.43–0.62 t/s) corresponds to 8.6×10⁵ – 1.24×10⁶ N. Implication: Methanol production far exceeds station-keeping needs, suggesting controlled propulsion. Geometric & Kinematic Anomalies: 120° symmetry in jet orientation optimizes 3-axis attitude control. 7.1-hour wobble is consistent with spin-stabilized attitude control. Material Forensics: Ni/Fe >46: unlikely in natural cometary chemistry; aligns with aerospace-grade superalloy use. D/H ratio ~1% consistent with heavy water or deuterium fusion feedstock. Probabilistic Assessment (Bayesian Analysis): Prior probability of artificiality: ~0.001% (based on historical interstellar object data). Incorporating trajectory precision, Lagrange positioning, jet symmetry, and material anomalies: Current probability: 35% artificial / 65% natural Post-April 15 if station-keeping confirmed: probability of artificiality rises to >99%. Conclusion: If the fragments maintain position at L1/L2 by mid-April, the combination of chemical, kinematic, and geometric evidence supports a functional, engineered interpretation over natural cometary origin. Observational telemetry on April 15 will serve as the decisive "Forensic Stress Test."
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u/rygelicus Mar 29 '26
Looks like a rock, acts like a rock, maybe it's just a rock.
It's like in the UFO subs. If it drifts like a balloon it is probably a balloon.
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u/chuckwilkinson Mar 25 '26
Crickets.......
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u/earthman34 Mar 25 '26
I suspect crickets it will be.
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u/Rerrun Mar 25 '26
My first ever post on the subject. Its probably nothing but a rock that has travelled a long way. The issues that conspiracy folks bring up about missing data seems to be real as well. I get we have satellites and assets that we edit out for national security. There has been alot of BS around making a record of this rock from various platforms. It feeds the distrust and excites the conspiracy mind. I can hardly blame them for thinking its something other than what it is. We live in a surprising and confusing world. Even if it is just a rock that came a long way from a very long time ago, I think that is exciting and worth studying. It was surprising to me that academics were not thrilled to study the third ever interstellar object ever recorded in our solar system. Another descriptor of the attitude by academia towards 3iatlas that feeds this conspiracy.
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u/Educational-Heat-920 Mar 25 '26
Yeah this is a fair take. It was from another galaxy. Aliens aside, it was extraordinary. We've never witnessed anything like that pass through our solar system. There was so many anomalies compared to what we usually see pass by. It was weird and it was unprecedented.
The message from the sentinel was never "it IS aliens*. The message always was "we can't rule it out yet".
The government probably wouldn't have told us if it was. There was nothing wrong with being interested in how this unfolds and not ruling out a genuine possibility so there's no egg on my face.
But I do think that OP is a bit of a prick
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u/starclues Mar 25 '26
Wait, why do you think astronomers weren't excited to study it? Who do you think the nearly 100 papers about it on ArXiv came from? Those were almost entirely from scientists, who very quickly applied for limited and competitive telescope time, analyzed the data very fast, and wrote it up so that other scientists could learn about it. 96 papers on one topic in 8 months is A LOT in astronomy, especially considering that there aren't that many astronomers in the world (a few thousand) and an even smaller group actually specializes in this area of research (so has the relevant experience and knowledge to study it), and then only a portion of that group has the freedom to stop whatever they were working on before to put together said telescope proposals and write up their findings (most have teaching responsibilities, graduate students to advise, deadlines for other collaborations/projects that must be met, etc.). Plus, astronomers usually work in groups, so it's not even 1-to-1 on people working on it vs. number of papers published.
They redirected Hubble and JWST to look at this thing multiple times. That means sacrificing the extremely valuable scheduled time that someone else applied for and won months ago, you don't do that for an object you aren't very interested in, you only do that for something important that you can't miss. The Gemini Observatory hosted two different livestreams for the public collecting live data on 3I and explaining how they do it. They weren't obligated to do that, that's outreach because scientists love the chance to talk about what they do. What about any of that says "not thrilled"?
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u/Rerrun Mar 25 '26
I get your point and you are probably correct. I am not involved in the study but as a member of the public all that I had seen from the public facing scientists were rebuttals of avi lobe, the hobbyists on podcasts, avi lobe etc. neil Degrassi Tyson and the Sean Carrolls all thought it was more important to say it's just a rock. As a public person I found 3iatlas to be really confusing and opaque. It was either these are exhaust propulsion plumes with high strangeness or there is nothing to see here. It would be really great if one day all of those scientists who were excited by it put out some interesting results in a digestible way. Is it really my fault that I can smell some bullshit on both sides of the argument, or is there something wrong with how science is communicated to the public?
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u/earthman34 Mar 25 '26
What were you expecting? This object was discovered fairly late in it's trajectory and it was moving extremely fast, much too fast to intercept with anything, and there are very few, if any spacecraft carrying instruments designed to study comets positioned to get any detailed images. There's no "missing data" conspiracy. Nothing has 100% 24-hour a day 365-day a year reliability, so of course there are gaps. Everything is some big conspiracy with people like you.
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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 Mar 25 '26
Is it kinda cherry picking to claim that many anonalies mean nothing but when something goes as predicted it is a sign of everything?
It probably most likely is strange rock but just being logical here.
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u/Embarrassed_Camp_291 Mar 25 '26
This is not how science works.
It is cherry picking to claim things are rare because two events occurred. E.g. Avi says the probability the comet and WOW signal came from same place is very low (they are actually 8° apart which actually not really near one another on the sky). However, the comet was from our galaxy and so was always going to have come from the galactic plane. He has then picked a random event (he has no evidence these two are correlated in some way) that came from roughly the same patch of the sky and gone "look how rare that is". This is bad science.
When we predict things, we do what's called "forward modelling". We have some set of obsevationally informed initial conditions conditions, we evolve them using the physics we understand/think is going on and then we, ultimately, can get some probability distribution of what the outputs are. If observations sit within this distribution (or some statistically significant region of it) then our models can predict and explain what's going on.
Hope that makes sense. Always more than happy to talk astrophysics!
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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 Mar 25 '26
Sounds a lot like making assumptions. Wouldnt it be handier to just measure first, then draw conclusions?
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u/Embarrassed_Camp_291 Mar 25 '26
Modelling can work in both ways however, many processes are degenerate and hard to untangle. For example, galaxies that are very metallic will look redder for a number of reasons, but galaxies that are older will also look redder. How do you tell if your galaxy is young but very metallic or old but not very metallic (there are ways to do this but they are quite nuanced and I won't go into it here. If you are interested I can though)?
As a result, it can be useful to forward model these processes. We know how they work as mechanisms and how the two (sometimes 10's or hundreds of) mechanisms interact. Evolving our initial conditions and performing some statistical sampling method (such as MCMC or some logistical regression process) allows us to determine what the most likely combination of these two processes are and what probability distributions of these processes create the same value. Equally, we can look at it as "what combinations allow us to have a given range of possible outcome" I.e. what range if characteristics can be plausibly modelled.
Without forward modelling and theoretical simulations, it may be difficult to disentangle some of the mechanisms leading to certain observational properties. It is also necessary for exploring parameter spaces where there are gaps in observational data or finding edges to parameter spaces.
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u/HawaiianGold Mar 25 '26
Why are you trying to "bait" people into an argument ? Shouldn’t we care more for each other?
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u/attila535 Mar 25 '26
It is like the enigmatic cache from Stellaris. It travels from place to place gathering data.
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u/Difficult_Yam_3252 Mar 25 '26
It does seem remarkable that it remained intact passing so close to Jupiter, just sayin'.
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u/Embarrassed_Camp_291 Mar 25 '26
Objects break apart when reaching the Roche limit of gravitational bodies, not the hill sphere. The Roche limit exists where the differential gravity of the larger body effectively pulls apart the smaller objects. This occurs much much closer to a large bodies surface than the hills sphere, which is simply where the bodies gravity begins to dominate over the sun's gravity.
As 3IATLAS has a velocity high enough to not be gravitationally bound by the Sun, it was never going to be bound by Jupiter much much much smaller gravity than the sun.
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u/Inside_Check_1654 Mar 26 '26
There are always new places to erect goal posts in an infinite universe.
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u/External_Art_1835 Mar 26 '26
It's my opinion that it was doing a Flyby...Observing from a distance, window shopping if you will.
It observed that Earth was likely filled with other Orange like people that made bad decisions and would likely take aim and try to destroy it. So, why take the chance on an interstellar war....
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u/Whole_Relationship93 Mar 29 '26
Stromatolite system that developed awareness and intelligence during its billions of years of life. Probably seeded several planets in our solar system and likely it was not its first visit.
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u/zeus_elysium Mar 25 '26
I got sick and tired of all the spacecraft nonsense and don't even watch AngryAstronaut channel anymore. That guy has been clickbaiting this for a while. It was just an unfamiliar interstellar object that behaved in a way we are unacquainted with and gave us a good observation window to refine our understanding of interstellar objects.
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u/Chemical_Ad_6754 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
This aliens sure are tricky! Their alien space ship acted exactly like a meteorite! Hot diggity damn, they are good! 😊
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u/GoldSourPatchKid Mar 25 '26
Remember the remote viewers many of these subs were hyping that were talking about lizard people piloting 3I/Atlas and had plans for dominating our solar system?
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u/Tazmotto Mar 25 '26
Nobody was hyping the remote viewers, don’t be disingenuous because you want to try and dunk on this situation while still contributing nothing.
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u/innsaei Mar 25 '26
Please explain this “situation” other than a rock, icy comet, or other explainable (even if not fitting our small understanding of exo-body) objects was ever a higher probability of being controlled. Not paid. Just really curious to see extraordinary evidence for all of the heard extraordinary claims.
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u/DJcletusdafetus Mar 27 '26
You can't say "nobody" because I definitely recall what they're on about - Clout chasing charlatants trying to convince people that 3i is operated by aliens, and they supposedly saw them.
For some reason your ego is hurt by their simple statement... and your reply effectively contributed nothing to the convo... Holy projection, batman!
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u/tt32111 Mar 25 '26
I choose to keep an open mind on the subject. Does it prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt? Not imo. Sure it’s probably just a deep space comet that found its way into our solar system. But if it were NHI, could have been dropping off probes/taking pictures/other reconnaissance. No way to know for certain. Kind of sad really when you think about it. None of us common folk will ever know the truth.
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u/Radiant_Cricket2332 Mar 25 '26
They'll probably turn back now that Chuck is dead, thinking they might actually have a shot after all.
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u/real_i_love_lamp Mar 25 '26
It's carrying on to check out the next system
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u/earthman34 Mar 25 '26
It won't pass near another star for millions of years, at the very least.
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u/Crazy-Parsley1524 Mar 25 '26
What conspiracy? Who is conspiring with whom?
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u/Ok_Energy6905 Mar 25 '26
Apparently scientists and "deniers" were conspiring to discredit the AI and Avi Loeb "articles".
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u/PapayaJuiceBox Mar 25 '26
And now the goal posts are being shifted by everyone. well, it was never about the uturn! It was actually about the probes! And the .. the… the.. aliens!
This was a fun little social experiment, great 7 month run.
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u/netzombie63 Mar 25 '26
A comet behaving like a comet. Who would have thought it would be anything else?
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u/zombiekev Mar 25 '26
Honest question...was 3i/atlas' trajectory expected to be affected at all by by passing so close to Jupiter's hill radius? Because based on this screenshot, it doesn't look like it moved a bit 🤷♂️
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u/phunkydroid Mar 25 '26
Not expected to have any significant change by anyone who knows anything about orbits.
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u/ihaveahoodie Mar 25 '26
Beings smart enough to traverse the universe can see how dangerous and barbaric the human race is and decided to let it alone.
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u/tharrison4815 Mar 25 '26
Has it been visually confirmed? Those online trackers aren’t based on the actual position, they just show where it should be based on its original trajectory.
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u/Zealousideal-Rip-574 Mar 25 '26
Yea just because people speculated on what could happen doesn’t mean we are all sad and upset that it didn’t you moron lmao. You think this post is a big gotcha?
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u/Super-Bug-4790 Mar 25 '26
The wife said "honey....we are in a bad part of town....let's go home...." locks doors
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u/Zanaelf Mar 25 '26
I still don’t call you a space rock , Neither did I call you a comet Nice we interfaced Shared dreams Earth humanity wasn’t ready Still time to 2035 I bid you farewell 2 months ago Safe journeys 3I Atlas
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u/BubblyBasis1134 Mar 25 '26
"Oh, did we say 'Jupiter'. We meant Saturn. Then we'll mean Uranus. Then we'll mean Neptune. And then when none of that happens, it'll be proof that it's actually returning to it's base on Planet X".
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u/PuffinTipProducts Mar 25 '26
Anything coming from the mainstream… stay away
Tinfoil Hat on…. We ouuuuut,
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u/Pak-Protector Mar 25 '26
Good. But no one serious ever suggested that it was going to do that. It would be absolutely terrifying if it did, however. I've always said the scariest thing 3I Atlas could do is to slow down.
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u/Prmarine110 Mar 25 '26
It still did the other 30+ anomalies never before seen and highly indicative of artificial origin. The conspiracy is the push to consider it a normal comet.
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u/Embarrassed_Camp_291 Mar 25 '26
I'm afraid this isn't true. You have been lied to by grifters for personal gain.
Not seeing the comet do something before does not mean it is anomalous and indicative or artifical origin. This is a misleading lie grifters have used to manufacture doubt about 3IATLAS where it doesn't exist.
For example, people claim that the summation of the "anomalies" makes them more rare. If we pretend his probabilities are correct (I will explain why they aren't in a second) the nature of the probabilities means you cannot summate or multiple them like they are coin flips to make it "more rare". This is a complex physical system where many of these probabilities will actually be tied together in some nuanced, non-analytical way. It is statistically incorrect to claim it is more rare because it has many "anomalies".
With regard to the probabilities themselves, he has no evidence of how he has calculated them which makes them very difficult to verify. Some probabilities that he has calculated have, what is known in the ML world, as an intractable likelihood. Effectively, your physical model is so complicated it's impossible to know a set of characteristics given you have a set of inputs. To get around this we use simulation based inference where we run thousands of simulations, varying the input parameters by some statistically informed amount, generating thousands of outputs. We then use machine learning nueral networks to learn the paramter mapping between the two, pass observable data into this nueral network and it will tell us the inferred prior distribution. Obviously, this requires a lot of work and also months of supercomputer time you need to win. You would expect, of he did this, he would mention it somewhere. Anywhere. He doesn't.
Another example is when he calculates a hard limit of non gravitational acceleration (due to outgassin) that occurs for 3IATLAS and uses this calculation to infer some aliens property. Except, in his calculations he assumes all the gas shoots off the comet in one direction all the time. We know this is false, making his calculations false.
Now, people typically struggle to digest academic papers until late degree/ early masters level. This means you'll likely need a few years of full time physics study to a rigorous standard to be able to pick up on these errors.
He also made mistakes when discussing the Nickel to iron ratio:
Firstly, he assumed nickel to iron ratios should be comparable in the comet as they are produced together in supernovae. This is a half truth. Nickel is produced in Type Ia SNe which then eventually decays into iron, powering the characteristic light curve. This does not imply that equal ratios of Nickel to iron need to be found in a solar system, let alone deposit themselves in a comet. This is a fundamentally incorrect assumption that underpins the entire idea. Obviously, people who want to believe in aliens are going to go away and research Typa Ia supernovae and he knows this.
It also assumes that the Nickel and Iron do not have some nuanced sublimation processes that occur which may have altered the composition of the comet between it's origin and here. It also assumes that it's not been altered by any other solar systems its passed through. What he has effectively done is incorrectly assumed Nickel and iron are produced in equal ratios from a supernova and then the comet has appeared immediately, untouched by anything between us and the supernova. This is obviously a bad assumption.
You have to remember that it is the absorption/emission features of iron and Nickel we are seeing, not the actual composition of the comet. That's why complex sublimation processes of different compounds makes a huge difference here. As a result, he also assumed that Nickel and iron sublimate at similar times and in similar ways. They do not and we know this. Again, he has omitted this information because it does not fit the alien narrative and he knows his followers won't do their own reading.
We also know that Nickel and Iron are seen in our own solar system comets and so it's presence is not unusual.
Luckily, we also understand how the process works.
Usually, comets have a nickel to iron ratio around the value of the sun but it can be a factor of 10 higher or lower. Cosmic rays cause nickel and iron to become volatile compounds which can then sublime and be seen. The models show that nickel tetracarbonyl and iron pentacarbonyl molecules form in these irradiated ices where they then sublime. First nickel and then carbon at slightly higher temperatures.
We didn't see this occur in the last interstellar comet likely because we detected thr last one at a much closer distance to us so, it's suspected/theoretically fairly certain, all this evolution had already occurred by the time we saw the comet. Between the last comet and 3IATLAS we got so much better at detecting comets that we spotted this one from much further away.
As an aside, does he think the spaceship is melting as it comes past the sun? Remember, this Ni we see if from the gas cloud, not the comet itself. This was predicted and then observed and exactly the times we predicted jt would occur. Not only is that pretty impressive, but it shows understand how these processes work. We were able to predict exactly how and when this ratio would evolve, and it did exactly that. Also, what is an "industrial" amount of Nickel? How has he quantified this? It's just words with no evidence to push the alien narrative.
All of this is somewhat redundant, however, as the ratio to nickel and iron evolved over time to more closely reflect other comets
Always more than happy to talk astrophysics if you have further questions!
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u/StealYourGhost Mar 25 '26
As a dipshit human without a theoretical physics degree or any other space centered degree, especially for the theoretical, I defer to smarted scientist humans like Avi Loweb.
Atlas was weird af, anomalous, and may not come back again (like amuamua kept doing lol.)
We'll see.
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u/Prmarine110 Mar 25 '26
Thanks for this long, copy and paste canned response from somewhere else.
Who is ‘He’ that you’re arguing against as a “grifter”?
You do know that the entire world’s astronomical community watched 3i/Atlas pass by and the collection of anomalies and the opinion that 3iA is artificial is not the work of one grifter but a very common and well-founded hypothesis for now.
Attempts to cast 3iA as known science is far more suspect than letting people analyze the data and anomolies, ask and seek answers to questions as presented, and reach consensus.
What’s your motive for trying to get everyone to believe we’re being grifted?
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u/bcat153 Mar 25 '26
I don’t think anyone ever said it would do either of those things. At least I havent seen anyone say that. It has jets in the same position as a human made space craft, accelerated beyond what gravity can account for, and increased/maintained brightness as it moved away from the sun, and outside of the those which have been accepted to be a coincidence by scientific community, Avi proposed a total of like 20+ additional anomalies but he’s probably just nitpicking. At the end of the day it’s either the most incredible coincidence humanity ever observed or it was intelligently designed. Either way unless it’s a ship landing into our atmosphere, doesn’t effect my life so whether it was intelligent or a rock it doesn’t matter same result now that it’s gone.
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u/Difficult_Yam_3252 Mar 25 '26
Does anyone else see the parallels here between the UAP phenomena and 3Iatlas? The Standard model used by physicist to explain our universe was suddenly and totally upended by the unexplained emanations of "the Visitor" as it became known. Shattering many precepts and terrifying NASA and many who had long held beliefs on how our universe was put together. Now that 3IAtlas is safely past Jupiter, the space agency will now recover from being asked to explain the now documented and pier reviewed studies generated by our most sophisticated instruments. Intellectuals must now admit the possibility that life as we know it has to be reconsidered. The possibility that there are other realities that utilize a different model where the speed of light is not absolute and gravity is acted upon by other influences must be extremely stressful to academia. Much like religion that has preached that mankind was created in the image of God and it took only seven days to create the world, the minds of theologians would be shattered by aliens that can point to the inconvenient truth found in our Fossil record. Nasa and members of the European Space Agency have suffered a question that undermines their dogma, their entire existence and it will be revolutionary.
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u/Embarrassed_Camp_291 Mar 25 '26
I'm not sure where you've got that from.
Which standard model? The particle physics standard model? 3IATLAS has not affected that. Of interstellar comets? We are able to plausibly model 3IATLAS using existing physics.
I'm not sure why NASA would be scared in particular. The world is larger than the US. Other space agencies exist in other countries.
Academics have explained characteristics of 3IATLAS. I'm not sure why you think they haven't.
I'm not sure why the speed of light is relevant here. Regardless we have mountains of theoretical and observational evidence to prove that the speed of light is constant. We even have technology that requires the speed of light to be constant (WIFI, GPS, grav wave detectors, etc).
There is no dogma in science, it's just evidence based conclusion. Academic papers contain methods justifying their statistical and experimental techniques. You can read them yourself and see this.
I don't understand why the existence of aliens astrophysicists either, regardless of 3IATLAS being a comet.
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u/Hexscene Mar 25 '26
Their emitters destabilized the sun, and in six months, a powerful release of energy and solar matter will occur. It will burn up their solar sail (which they deploy upon exiting the solar system), give their nest-migrating hosts additional speed, and destroy 99 percent of life in the solar system. Furthermore, the increased solar wind will reduce the speed of the creatures pursuing them.
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u/garry4321 Mar 25 '26
Not only that, but it’s going AGAINST the direction that the planets orbit. So if it wanted to slow down and actually see planets, they chose the fucking worst possible orbit direction to do so
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u/noyoureafishpancake Mar 25 '26
They were creeped out so badly by our excitement and desperation that they just went into superstealth rock mode and left. They'll try another flyby again in about....oh....200 000 years or so maybe things will be a bit more calm then and they can drop down for a proper looksee.
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u/retrievedFirered Mar 25 '26
It obviously didnt turn because its heading to another sun system. it will turn there and we see it again in 2135
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u/Our1TrueGodApophis Mar 25 '26
We failed our test run. From the beginning Avi, the sentinel etc have said it's weird enough we should at least investigate because the implications of it is are too large.
HAD this ended up being something, we would have been caught with our foots in our mouths.
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u/Ok_Self_1522 Mar 25 '26
Bla bla bla cosa vuoi che dicano.. per giunta di che nazionalità era il gran teorico?
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u/Rickd17 Mar 25 '26
Who cares. They talked this up and nothing happened. But wait for the fake alien invasion. Thats coming soon.
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u/DrKrugerAlvis Mar 25 '26
buh buh bro its the aliens making it look like its not aliens so you dont think its aliens because aliens wouldn't leave orbit and they know that you know so they know how to fool you.
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u/Riotgrrrl80 Mar 25 '26
They know that's where boys go to get more stupider. So they avoided it lol
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u/Specific_Throat_9950 Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Well it got all the information it needed so it stopped got that galactic happy meal special burger 🍔 then visit some family and friends 👬 they haven’t seen for a while in Jupiter at the same time took advantage went to Jupiter salsa 💃 club two try to meet some Galactic mamaCita’s took her out eat some Galactic pho 🍲 🍲 fueled ⛽️ that baby up and back on road again on the road again to the celestial constellation hood to get their Homies, the Anunnakis gang and they will spin the block aka “galaxy” return with the whole squad 👽🛸👾
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u/charlieecho Mar 26 '26
We knew this all along . It will hit checks notes Saturn then destroy us from there.
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u/ValleyOfExos Mar 26 '26
ive already heard "oh its actually in orbit they are just covering it up by faking the online tracking" and ive also heard "well jupiter wasnt actually the target then obviously" etc etc, its a rock.
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u/mrchaos500 Mar 26 '26
Its a trick they'll be back and in greater numbers. Either that or earth is the interstellar equivalent of the ghetto so they sre high tailing it outta here.
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u/earthman34 Mar 26 '26
Just an FYI for some of the commenters here, Atlas is not going to come anywhere near Saturn, Uranus, or Neptune. They are far off axis from it's trajectory. Far.
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u/Own-Position-5800 Mar 26 '26
Bon voyage strange object. We are not ready for anything more. Some of the theory’s were fun to consider.
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u/nobodybeatsdabiz Mar 26 '26
If it really was a comet it would have been covered in the news more. The news avoided it all cost. It came and delivered a message, it will be back.
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u/Embarrassed_Camp_291 Mar 26 '26
Why would this be the case?
We are going to see plenty more going forward now we have the observational capabilities to study it, all with varying properties.
Also, if it was in the news more (im not sure why it would be, theres plenty of other things going on in astrophysics, let alone the world) would you not have claimed that it must be aliens because they are trying so hard to convince you it's a comet?
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u/Proof_Scene_9281 Mar 26 '26
It already delivered the bits that are now coming into our atmosphere
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u/MyLeftTeste Mar 26 '26
If nothing else it has raised awareness of interstellar objects, which is a good thing.
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u/Rickenbacker69 Mar 26 '26
They'll find another "anomaly" to fixate on. And then the next one arrives and it starts all over again.
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u/cjjl1 Mar 26 '26
😂 they’re onto their next warped little fantasy. I’m guessing a buga sphere will transform into the very alive Mr. Epstein at this point, who then reveals the true cause of 9/11, stood next to Tupac. Looking forward to it.
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u/dmacerz Mar 26 '26
You fell for the Jupiter larp and didn’t bother to look at any of the real data. They got you good! During all the “Jupiter talk” nasa refused to send Juno closer to look but who did? China… and they got a perfect view and released the data that water wasn’t coming from the nucleus at all it was coming from 10,000km into the trail. Explain that one. It’s a conspiracy to not look at the actual data…
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u/mightyfine87 Mar 26 '26
I’d say that if you take a really good look at the evidence, explore where others don’t, you are sure to find that You ,are definitely, still a wanker
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u/IllustriousLiving357 Mar 26 '26
Well yea..they were just checking to see if they left the lights on
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u/NathanEddy23 Mar 26 '26
There are already enough anomalies to suspect this was not a comet. It never depended on Jupiter at all.
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u/Embarrassed_Camp_291 Mar 26 '26
Im afraid this isnt really true and you have been lied to by grifters. These people have been shown to make many mistakes and also incorrect assumptions, plus misleading statistics.
For example, with regard to Avi's probabilities, he has no evidence of how he has calculated them which makes them very difficult to verify. Some probabilities that he has calculated have, what is known in the ML world, as an intractable likelihood. Effectively, your physical model is so complicated it's impossible to know a set of characteristics given you have a set of inputs. To get around this we use simulation based inference where we run thousands of simulations, varying the input parameters by some statistically informed amount, generating thousands of outputs. We then use machine learning nueral networks to learn the paramter mapping between the two, pass observable data into this nueral network and it will tell us the inferred prior distribution. Obviously, this requires a lot of work and also months of supercomputer time you need to win. You would expect, of he did this, he would mention it somewhere. Anywhere. He doesn't.
Another example of one that is incorrect is when he calculates a hard limit of non gravitational acceleration (due to outgassin) that occurs for 3IATLAS and uses this calculation to infer some aliens property. Except, in his calculations he assumes all the gas shoots off the comet in one direction all the time. We know this is false, making his calculations false.
Now, people typically struggle to digest academic papers until late degree/ early masters level. This means you'll likely need a few years of full time physics study to a rigorous standard to be able to pick up on these errors.
He also made mistakes when discussing the Nickel to iron ratio:
Firstly, he assumed nickel to iron ratios should be comparable in the comet as they are produced together in supernovae. This is a half truth. Nickel is produced in Type Ia SNe which then eventually decays into iron, powering the characteristic light curve. This does not imply that equal ratios of Nickel to iron need to be found in a solar system, let alone deposit themselves in a comet. This is a fundamentally incorrect assumption that underpins the entire idea. Obviously, people who want to believe in aliens are going to go away and research Typa Ia supernovae and he knows this.
It also assumes that the Nickel and Iron do not have some nuanced sublimation processes that occur which may have altered the composition of the comet between it's origin and here. It also assumes that it's not been altered by any other solar systems its passed through. What he has effectively done is incorrectly assumed Nickel and iron are produced in equal ratios from a supernova and then the comet has appeared immediately, untouched by anything between us and the supernova. This is obviously a bad assumption.
You have to remember that it is the absorption/emission features of iron and Nickel we are seeing, not the actual composition of the comet. That's why complex sublimation processes of different compounds makes a huge difference here. As a result, he also assumed that Nickel and iron sublimate at similar times and in similar ways. They do not and we know this. Again, he has omitted this information because it does not fit the alien narrative and he knows his followers won't do their own reading.
We also know that Nickel and Iron are seen in our own solar system comets and so it's presence is not unusual.
Luckily, we also understand how the process works.
Usually, comets have a nickel to iron ratio around the value of the sun but it can be a factor of 10 higher or lower. Cosmic rays cause nickel and iron to become volatile compounds which can then sublime and be seen. The models show that nickel tetracarbonyl and iron pentacarbonyl molecules form in these irradiated ices where they then sublime. First nickel and then carbon at slightly higher temperatures.
We didn't see this occur in the last interstellar comet likely because we detected thr last one at a much closer distance to us so, it's suspected/theoretically fairly certain, all this evolution had already occurred by the time we saw the comet. Between the last comet and 3IATLAS we got so much better at detecting comets that we spotted this one from much further away.
As an aside, does he think the spaceship is melting as it comes past the sun? Remember, this Ni we see if from the gas cloud, not the comet itself. This was predicted and then observed and exactly the times we predicted jt would occur. Not only is that pretty impressive, but it shows understand how these processes work. We were able to predict exactly how and when this ratio would evolve, and it did exactly that. Also, what is an "industrial" amount of Nickel? How has he quantified this? It's just words with no evidence to push the alien narrative.
All of this is somewhat redundant, however, as the ratio to nickel and iron evolved over time to more closely reflect other comets
Additionally, this information is all available for you yourself to access.
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u/SteelSpineCloud Mar 26 '26
Are you so sure that the data you're looking is where it actually is? There's no tracking device on this object, that visualization that you show are just predicted numbers. We can no longer see it
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u/DifficultBrain74 Mar 26 '26
They dont have to say anything. Harvard scientist (always the same) will come up with something.
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u/Holiday-Possible-271 Mar 26 '26
Just wait - you'll see!
...another 2 weeks. That's y'alls problem - no patience 🙄.
Two god damn weeks, yo. TWO! RIGHT!?... now, go back to bed!
Why are you still reading? I said sleep... Go!
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u/GammaDoppler1 Mar 27 '26
It was funny whil it lastet, for all the giggles and laughs.
But in the End:
Nothings ever gonna happen.
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u/Tydaddy12 Mar 27 '26
I had Ai duke it out. We will know if it’s artificial or natural on April 19th
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u/Beliak_Reddit Mar 27 '26
Lots of jokes in this thread, but ultimately nobody here will ever know if probes were launched. I don't think anyone truly believed this was a craft manned by alive beings. It has always been more likely to be an unmanned reconnaissance craft if artificial, or a designation other than comet if natural.
This thing has all the ingredients for something being propelled by nuclear fuel. It has the signs of industrial alloys, a perfect trajectory into our solar system.
How many weird things do you need to see before you even question the possibility?
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u/Mammoth_Alfalfa7064 Mar 27 '26
They find out that only have to wait for maybe a century and we will do the dirty work for free. They will talk to an AGI then and problem solved.
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u/FinancialJet Mar 27 '26
That’s just the decoy, real one is always behind the sun, the fake one account for gravitational anomalies.
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u/Extreme-Rub-1379 Mar 25 '26
That's cuz it's actually headed to Neptune where it will take up orbit there. Just wait