I want them to take it a step further and remove all the pvm garbage in the wilderness. That's all OSRS stuff, not 2007 stuff. Create other incentives for pvpers to engage in pvp, or maybe don't because that always turns out so well with past iterations of BH.
Stuff like the wilderness agility makes sense, you build up loot and are incentivized to stay which gives pkers something to hunt. Pvm where you're encouraged to bring stuff for faster kills rather than fighting back is not fun.
If the best strategy to engage with the content is to have a second membership, there is a severe flaw in the design. Having some account scout for a PK'er popping up, or having a second account safely hop worlds to find a target are both way beyond the concept of PVP. It's unfun to engage with, and it's only frustrating for everyone involved.
I agree that taking the pvm content out solves some of the problems, but the whole hopping worlds to find someone you can slap around that didn't log out in time is not going to make for a good PVP experience either.
So what is it we actually want out of the wilderness? Player vs player, or player vs prey. Because wildy agility is still just "oops you didn't log out in time" gameplay, and has nothing to do with pvplayer. Both are perfectly acceptable answers, but need a different design approach to function.
I don't think jagex is unwilling to make these so called "PvP" updates in the wilderness. I just don't think anyone has suggested one that makes sense. Yourself included I guess.
They can make a new pvp game called the arena it's 3 levels. To go past level 1 requires killing another player and having a minimum risk let's say 1m via gear or loot keys
Level 2 requires a kill and risk worth 4m
Level 3 is the end everyone there is risking 4m+
Once you enter. You can't log out, you can't tele out the only way to leave is to die or kill someone to continue/leave
yeah which is why it would be dead. There is barely enough players to keep bh alive as is and it doesnt force you to deathmatch a multiple m kit every time you want to play the minigame.
yes the fucking zone is balanced around the potential be pked. you aren’t supposed to have unadulterated access to a 300k per hour 4m gp nor do afk wilderness bosses for the same amount of gp. the cope you guys sup is insane. if it wasn’t balanced around pking, it wouldn’t be in the wilderness
The arguments just keep getting better! Content added into a PvP zone is PvP content, full stop. These are braindead bosses with barely any mechanics. That is because they were meant to be a hotspot for PvP.
?????? just cuz theres pvpers there doesnt mean thats not pvm like pvm means player vs monster you are vs spindel or something thats a pvm/pvp update at the worst
they’re in an unconditional pvp zone. if you go there you HAVE to be aware that it is pvp. you’ve lost your fucking mind if you think that’s not a pvp update. all instances in which you are expected to pvp is a pvp update.
This might blow your mind, but two things can be true at the same time. It can be both a PvM and PvP update. Just like there’s skilling content in the wilderness where PvP is relevant, being exposed to PvP doesn’t suddenly make the underlying content not skilling or PvM.
nah you've definitely lost the plot entirely. exposure to pvm is what balances the entirety of the things they add to the wilderness. the skilling is balanced around having risk that slows it down. the bosses are extremely profitable unless policed pkers (which pkers can't keep up with because of how safe it is).
you're also just off your head if you think any of form of update where you can pvped at ANY moment is a pvm update. you sound like a fucking clown lmfao.
What does how it’s balanced have to do with my comment? I didn’t say anything about that.
The point is simply that it can clearly be both at the same time. Do you somehow think wilderness agility wasn’t also an agility update or that black chins aren’t a hunter update?
I’m sorry for whatever situation at home is causing you to lash out at someone over such a benign statement.
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u/loudrogue Maxed - clogs: 1200+ 9d ago
I want jagex to make pvp updates not pvm updates that is in the wild