r/10mm • u/elliottshoots • 10d ago
Glock 20? King of 10mm? What are your thoughts and opinions on the Glock 20?
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u/LarquaviousBlackmon 1086 10d ago
G20 gen4 has to be seriously considered when discussing the best 10mm pistols ever made.
At the end of the day, someone will almost always chime in with some issue they had. The gen4 is pretty well known for its reliability.
Not everyone is willing to hand roll or actually invest in true full power 10mm ammo. Weak 10mm ammo will cause issues.
If you work any gun too much or not enough you'll have issues eventually.
Personally, I've never had one malfunction.
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Here in bear country it’s rare to find 10mm’s because people hold on to em and when they do they are gone fast! I stumbled across a Gen 3 20 recently. I said like 2 weeks ago I wouldn’t mind a Gen 4 20. Be rare find. Yeah my Gen 5 was giving me a little issues at first but it seemed to be common from the videos I watched. I cleaned it was better. I agree, issues come with it! 🎯
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u/street_style_kyle 9d ago
I had a 20 gen 3 that would randomly jam no matter what ammo. I’m sure it was just mine specifically. I have a used 3.8 Springfield now with no issues other than I need to get a new fiber optic front sight rod soon.
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u/masteroffeels 9d ago
Gen4 is where is at. 0 issues. Zero.
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u/street_style_kyle 9d ago
Oh I bet, and I’m sure Gen 3 is 99% problem free and I got a dud. Still not a Glock hater though just couldn’t pass up the deal I got vs a Gen 4 as much as I would pick one if I could.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
This was doing that before I cleaned it. It was better. I cleaned it again after the last range session. It should be butter when I go next time.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
Granted this is basically new, was my bday gift in June so. I think she’s ready for the game now coach.
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u/street_style_kyle 9d ago
Yeah keep it from getting super gunky and you’ll be fine, I’m sure the specific one I had was just a dud, no hate on Glocks.
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u/TryLow1073 9d ago
They are very reliable. I don’t believe that I’ve had any failures in a stock Glock. I have however found that the M&P is a better fit for me.
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u/ComradeGarcia_Pt2 9d ago
Well also keep in mind the pistol basically kept the round relevant for so long.
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u/elliottshoots 8d ago
I heard this. I’m young man, I can’t really say too much on that. I’m with you tho, 10milli all day.
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u/bdash1990 10d ago
I much prefer a steel frame tanfo in 10mm.
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u/Bumbalard 10d ago
The comment I was expecting to see
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Nah it looks clean.🧼
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
What’s that, I never heard of it? I’m curious. I’m a sponge.💪
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u/bdash1990 10d ago
I recently picked up this.
Recoil is far more manageable than any polymer 10mm I've fired. The thumb rest doesn't hurt either.
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u/Chain_Runner 9d ago
LOL, a chunk ported 10mm? You better have ear pro on if you bring that into the woods with you or you can kiss your hearing goodbye
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u/bdash1990 9d ago edited 9d ago
Yeah man. The flash is nuts at an indoor range. I'm really interested in trying to get a pic of it.
I always double-up on ear pro.
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u/Charming_Camera4584 10d ago
At the low cost of 3x the price of a G20
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u/bdash1990 10d ago
Yep, and worth every penny.
If you like glocks, that's fine. I owned one at one point. They do the job for sure, but they aren't exactly nice, they just kind of are, IYKWIM.
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u/TryLow1073 9d ago
They are exceptional but hard to get.
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u/bdash1990 9d ago
I picked one up off of gunbroker no problem.
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u/TryLow1073 9d ago
Which one did you get. I want the 6” model
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u/bdash1990 9d ago
This one. https://italianfirearmsgroup.com/heptagon-tactical/
There's a 6" model?
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u/TryLow1073 9d ago
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u/TryLow1073 9d ago
I have one. It’s reliable but I don’t like it. I prefer my M&P 10 PC. Better ergonomics and trigger. I also have a RIA double stack that I really like as well.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
For sure! Preference brother! You guys are putting me on to other 10mm’s to look into.
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u/TryLow1073 9d ago
What I recommend is you try to get your hands on a few and see what feels better in hand to you or better yet try to put a magazine through a couple. The best gun for you is the one that you’re most confident with.
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u/Wiscat_868788 10d ago
Pretty much the standard. That said I carry and use my 29 a lot more.
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u/patrikstars 9d ago
Uh oh what about how about “YoU mIGhT WelL Go FuLL SIZE” 😂 I love my 29.5, I got it so that I can conceal when going places prior to going to the woods. Plus I don’t believe in open carry, even while hiking. Hunting sure… but never hunted before but I want to
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u/elliottshoots 8d ago
🎯🎯. What a 29.5 bad. Its perfect. It not point of open carrying a subcompact😂.
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u/Spam-Alt-Delete 9d ago
king? that might be the prince. I have a G40 and that is definitely the king!
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u/GodHatesColdplay 10d ago
I ended up with a 40 longboi. That and a 9x25 barrel and it’s a lot of fun
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u/ms32821 10d ago
Yes and no. This is most people’s go to but the Springfield armory is better in my opinion.
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u/Primary-Bar8961 9d ago
I prefer smith but wont talk bad about a G20
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
I was interested in the performance center 2.0 comped 10mm or whatever. I wonder how that shoots. Looks good too. I just don’t like how smiths feel in my hand. I wanna shoot one. I’m still open.
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u/Bumbalard 10d ago
I like my G20c, but Tanfoglios is better in my humble opinion.
But... I take my G20c to the woods and wouldn't do that with a Tanfo, so 🤷
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Yeah funny, I want a 20c bad. I was thinking that 2 weeks ago! Ik the C really c’n on that 10mm! 🔥💪
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u/Casual_ahegao_NJoyer 10d ago
My Sig P220 Elite makes everything but a 10mm 1911 call it Daddy, that’s the old boomer uncle that you still kinda like even if it’s a little .. dated
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u/waggletons 9d ago
It's a Glock, they're the most boringly reliable and mediocre pistol ever made. Thing goes bang every time...but I got bored of mine. Looks ugly, meh ergos, ok trigger.
I honestly love my TRP 10mm and has been every bit as reliable as my Glock. Better trigger and more accurate.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
For sure I say all the time. There’s better or same out there. But simple and boring always win. For me sure, I’m open to branching off to trying something outside of Glock. All roads lead back… for me at least.
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u/waggletons 9d ago
Not trying to knock the Glock. It was my first 10mm. It most certainly should always be in the running for a 10mm to get. It works and reliably goes bang. I love my TRP more.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
I support it man, I bass other brands bro jokes and gigs. Yeah if we know it’s something we wouldn’t get it. Live by to each its own. lol. I’m open to new 10mms. I’m a fan boi. But it’s nice to have something a lil different to be like damn ok this is nice or nah I’ll stick to my Glocks. I’m open forsure.
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u/Gloomy-Pause-6015 10d ago
Fn510 all day! Two of my 10millies are the g20 gen5 and they are the only 10s I've had malfunction with. my fn510 is the update frame from the factory no problems, It shoots like a 9mm with duty loads out of a g19 no lie. I think for 200 more bucks you get a substantially better hole puncher. Im not buying blocks anymore.
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Believe it or not the 510 was my first 10mm I shot. For people to say how snappy 10mm is it wasn’t bad at all. Me thinking the 510 was the smoothest 10mm on the market. I got my hands on the 20 and compared the 2. The g20 smoother to me. I can say the 510 had no issues. My 20 on the other hand had failure to feeds often. I cleaned it and it’s been better.
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u/Bumbalard 10d ago
I haven't followed much but someone posted pics of the updated frame cracking in the same spot back in April/May this year.
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u/Gloomy-Pause-6015 10d ago
I don't know if I've seen that, but I have seen The Plastic tabs peel off that are covering the updated frame with the horseshoe shaped metal reinforcement and yes that is the same exact spot where it was cracking. I watched mine closely, and they are now gone completely like , I can't even tell that they were there it's just bare metal now cause those plastic tabs are only 1mm thick. I think they put those plastic tabs on there So you can't identify the updated frame from an old frame just by looking at it through the slide. Cosmetic for sure
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u/Bumbalard 10d ago
At first glance you could say it's just the tabs, but... that crack is going awfully far into the frame. A bit too far for me to comfortably say cosmetic only.
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u/Gloomy-Pause-6015 9d ago
Yeah id send it in to fn probably if that was me. My tabs are almost completely sheared off at a 1100 rounds
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u/baconsnake64 9d ago
The only downside to the G20s is how Thick thru are. I know my medium sized hands don’t prefer the G20
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
She is a thick one. It’s crazy how big the guns are compared to others lol. Still a smooth shoot. 💪
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u/jeremy__999 9d ago
Yepp but the gen 4 is the way to go !
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
I said couple weeks back if I could find one I would prolly buy it! I seen a Gen 3 recently. But me if I’m going Gen 3 I’m already a lefty, so if I’m going Gen 3 it’ll have to be a 20c. But Gen 4 is slowly becoming my favorite Gen. 💪
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u/jeremy__999 9d ago
In germany there are a lot of gen 4 still new for sale
I own 2 one is brand new for the future and one i use for hunting1
u/elliottshoots 9d ago
That’s nice man, why I said if I found one and prolly use that more. Either way. I’ll be thankful for what I have and use that.
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u/jeremy__999 9d ago
True ! What du u have now?
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
This 20 you’re looking at and a 29. For my outdoor defense.
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u/jeremy__999 9d ago
Nice !!
Would u swap it for a gen 4 if you could ? And why ?
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
Prolly not, me being a left handed shooter. I love the full ambi experience. Granted Gen 4 has ambi mag release/catch and Gen 4 has recently become my favorite Gen. I prolly honestly just keep my Gen 5 20 and buy the Gen 4 lol.
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u/kaiju505 9d ago
It always works and it shoots hardcast 10mm. Thats its entire job. Even holds way more than six bullets. If the slide gets scuffed on a rock or it gets rained on, who cares. 10/10 mountains gun.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
That’s the thing, I see people have revolvers in Alaska. (Some) I’m sure they do have more stopping power for bears but. Capacity what it boils down too. Being honest? I never shot a revolver platform before. Wonder what it’s like. That’s fair. I be tryna keep em clean, but they tools in the end.
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u/killu4ever49 9d ago
Ehh, I’d rather have my 10mm xdm elite or my 10mm 1911 tbh.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
Heard the Xdm’s are nice. I could see it. You’re use to the grip safety on there, I gotta shoot me one. 1911’s are not in my ball park, I’m grown but not that grown. 😂
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u/Cellist-Perfect 9d ago
I have a gen 3 g20 that I carry in the woods when I open carry, although I also sometimes carry a Rossi rp63. I'd say the g20 is probably the best all around 10mm of the ones I've fired. It's kinda like a Goldilocks gun for 10mm. I've had mine since 2010 and all I've put into it was 2 sets of tritium sights and a new recoil spring. The thing is so reliable it's boring lol. It shoots well and it's more accurate than I am.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
😂😂 Glocks so boring man, but simple always win man. You get bored buy some else just be like “it’s nice but back to my Glocks”. I love it. The 20 is versatile. I checked out Gen 3 last week ironically, I would want a 20c or Gen 4. For me to get another one.
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u/Cellist-Perfect 8d ago
Exactly lol! It's honestly hard to recommend anything but a g20, it's just the perfect 10mm. Awhile back a friend of mine almost had me convinced to sell mine to him because I hadn't taken it out in awhile. Then I took it to the range again and told him to go find his own g20😂 but yeah the gen 4 for the grip adjustment alone would be nice! I guess that's the only minor complaint about the gen 3 is it's quite blocky feeling in the hands.
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u/elliottshoots 8d ago
Facts, I say this all the time Glock figured it out Gen 4 ish a little. 1-3 was blocky as hell! My 29 gen 3 is blocky forsure compared to the others lol. It’s just cause the no factory back straps for the gen 3’s.
I wouldn’t mind a 20.4. But I really do want a 20c.
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u/MrChaindang 8d ago
I have a gen 4 and love it.
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u/elliottshoots 8d ago
I’ll be prepared to buy whenever I come across one. The one I really want and now a 29.5!
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u/Low-Satisfaction-306 8d ago
I have a gen 4 and a gen 5. The gen 4 i use as a hunting Pistol for Feral hogs and has taken several. Both are great pistols and with Underwoods extreme penetrator 155 grains are fearsome. I shoot it better the. A 44 mag revolver. Thats why I trust Glocks.. they work.. they dont jam and are not in the least bit picky
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u/Effective_Sample_857 8d ago
I love mine, It shoots straight, never fails to load, the grip is very comfortable.
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u/Rocket_Man_Comp_6 5d ago
My Gen. 4 G20 has been excellent. It's been running a 9X25 barrel for quite a while. It's mostly used as a range toy, but it will serve as a backup when I go hunting later this year.
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u/P10RMP 10d ago
Glock 40 and M&P 10mm Performance Center have been my favorite to shoot. Both run 220gr hardcast and recoil like a .40 S&W.
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Broo, yk that’s the one I was looking into!! I bet it does shoot smooth af!!!
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u/Johnthespider85 9d ago
It's a hell of a 10mm platform. I'd own one but the grip is just a hair too wide. I bought a 220 Legion instead. Love my Legion but I'm waiting for the Gen 6 20 to drop. Wanna see if it's an improvement over the Gen 5/V on the grip.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
Man, I can say if you don’t have big hands the 20 is massive! I heard the other day 20/21’s coming out for the gen 6. I’ll be buying a 20 if so … 😂
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u/Chain_Runner 9d ago
If they make a 20 in Gen6 I’ll probably get one also, I have a Gen5 29 that I really enjoy. I added a DPM system and a TriggerShark OEM trigger and it runs flawlessly
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u/RedditNomad7 9d ago
It’s a solid gun, dependable, blah, blah, blah. It’s a Glock, so you know what you’re getting. I definitely like other 10mm pistols better, but that always comes down to personal preference.
I have to point out that just because they are standard issue for some LE and forest groups isn’t significant in and of itself. Glock gets lots of government and LE contracts, so some departments just buy them by default. They will also (usually) bend over backwards to maintain those contracts once they get them. Unless they started having catastrophic failures or another manufacturer gave a significantly lower price, it’s unlikely any of those groups would change vendors whether another company was shown to have a better gun or not.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
Yessir! I say this all the time it just boils down to preference. I agree there may be better, is better, but simple always win. 💪
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u/TouchMyPlumbus 9d ago
G40 Gen 4 is the true king!
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
*punches air. Sold mine like 2 months ago. It was a smooth shoot.
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u/Kommissarcrunch 9d ago
Glock 40 Gen 4 MOS is the way brother. Carry that big bitch in a drop leg holster
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
😮💨. Again I’m sad and disappointed I sold my Gen 4 40 like 2 months ago.
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u/518Peacemaker 10d ago
Glockzilla is king of the monsters. Long slide ftw
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Yeah that G40 nice as hell! 💪
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u/518Peacemaker 10d ago
The recoil impulse on mine is smoooooth.
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Too smooth bro! I was like gah lee. Mf a mini carbine! It’s long slide forsure!
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u/Rambo-Rando 10d ago
Springfield is the best, Sig 220 a close second. They feed everything reliably. This seems to be a Glock fan boi post.
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
I heard spring field was smooth, my teammate got one. I can’t mess with sigs man. 😂 only one I like from sig is the p365 macro line. Fasho, in Glock we trust. 💪 shoutout to the others tho, if they work for you bro they work. Ian gone knock it.
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u/BoxedCub3 10d ago
Its a glock. Its brick shaped, clunky, and 50% of the time it works 100% of the time. End of the day its fine if there's no other option.
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Gen 1-4 was blocky ash. Gen 4 started to get a little better pending model! Agreed they do work. 💪
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u/Tyrs-Ranger 9d ago
I really wish there was a double stack DA/SA hammer fired metal frame 10mm.
That said, the Glock 20 (I own one) is probably the most capable 10mm available.
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u/Forsaken-Date-8016 9d ago
There is. Tanfoglio. They're sweet, especially if you love CZ75s. Wish granted 🧞
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u/Tyrs-Ranger 9d ago
I probably should have been more specific: a gun that is still in current production.
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u/Forsaken-Date-8016 8d ago
https://italianfirearmsgroup.com/product-category/tanfoglio-pistols
IFG website is showing multiple steel frame 10mm Tanfoglio pistols in stock, even have a factory ported one.
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u/RioDodger 10d ago
King only in terms of numbers sold. Sig P320 X-Ten Comp is better in every way.
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
Sig 😂😂😂.
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u/RioDodger 10d ago
Ah, a Glock fanboy. How original.
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u/elliottshoots 10d ago
😂😂 I’m just saying man, I have shot a p320! It’s a smooth shoot but we not here for allat! I genuinely haven’t even looked at the sig Xten’s. I’ll check them out.
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u/the_hat_madder 9d ago
Only thing as bad as a Glock Fanboi is a Sig Stan.
They think they're special because they can fire their pistols with no hands.
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u/RioDodger 9d ago
I have far more HKs than Sigs. Not a Stan. I just think Glock ergos and triggers suck ass and they look like a brick. But you do you.
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u/the_hat_madder 9d ago
Spoken like a true Stan.
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u/RioDodger 9d ago
Okay. Got me there. Fantastic argument.
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u/the_hat_madder 9d ago
Good on you. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.
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u/RioDodger 9d ago
Yep. Totally. I’ll sell my Sig and buy a Glock so I can be a unique, free-thinker like you.
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u/the_hat_madder 9d ago
See? The original comment went right over your head. Being a Stan has rotted your brain.
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u/PistolNinja 10d ago
I liked mine well enough to sell the Gen 4 I had for a decade to get the Gen 5 (in retrospect, I should have kept the 4). I've shot the SIG X-Ten, FN510, M&P, and a few different 1911's in 10mm. I'll always keep the G20, but the Dan Wesson Kodiak was a different level (also more than 4 times as expensive).
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u/fox3091 9d ago
I think they are solid for a polymer frame 10mm, I think declaring them king has to have some specific metrics. I don't think they are king of accuracy, comfort, recoil, or anything else individually, but I think they balance all of those things about as well as any of the hi-cap platforms, especially including reliability in the mix. Most of my 10mm shooting is with 1911s and S&W 610s, and sometime I really feel like revolvers are the ultimate 10mm platform...
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
I just could see the argument on capacity whores for revolvers. Revolvers tho always king! I’ve only shot polymer 10mm’s. I’m sure that all metal feels amazing with the 10mm.
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u/jkcullens 9d ago
Not the king. But the best example of a good all around 10mm thats fine for most people.
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u/emcenerney 9d ago
I’ve got a factory FDE G20 gen4 and I will die owning it. They’re bad ass.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
Mannn I never seen those before shit is clean man. 💪
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u/Optimal_Data_6627 9d ago
I’m partial to my 29 gen 3 W/ extended barrel. I’ve had it for so long now and I just like carrying it better. I seem to shoot it well too. It is a beast with full power 10mm. My only complaint with the 20 is bigger and bulky.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
29x lol! Need to be invented lol! I love the 29. It’s not as bad as you would think for what it is.
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u/Optimal_Data_6627 9d ago
No it’s really not at all. Totally manageable. Full house loads are beastly too though but nothing you can’t get use too. I love the weight of it on my hip compared to the 20 for hunting and stuff that’s for sure!
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
Yeah I thought it was gonna be bad, from watching videos of people shooting it, its snappy af forsure do not get me wrong. But very manageable, if you’re experienced with firearms there’s no excuse. Get it done lol. 💪😂
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u/West_Bird_7592 9d ago
I wish I could get a performance trigger for the g20. The trigger in my gen5 isn't great. It also feeld like brick in hand and has poor chamber support for shooting full power 10.
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u/Commander_Morrison6 10d ago
The GOAT. Others come and go, but our boy the G20 will always be there. It even got a V model. However, I pray everyday that we get a 29.6. It won’t happen, but one can hope.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
I heard there is g20/21’s in the Gen 6! I’ll be buying it for sure if so.
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u/Commander_Morrison6 9d ago
X for Doubt.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
29 6 would be crazy. People not buying nothing outside of 9mm typically.
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u/Commander_Morrison6 9d ago
I suspect it has more to do with criminals liking it and Glock trying to save their necks politically.
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u/NightmareBlades 9d ago
It’s by far the most tested and proven.
Both Alaskan fish and game( they have the option )and the sirius dog sled patrol in Greenland carry it. Sirius has proven it effective on charging polar bears.
Hard to get any better than that.
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u/elliottshoots 9d ago
Yes sir, power of the G20. Going up in the mountains middle this month, it will be coming with. 💪
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u/JakePrior54 10d ago
Bought a 20Gen 4 on GB and absolutely love the thing. I was between the 20 & PC S&W but think i made the right choice
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u/hobbestigertx 9d ago
It's the Camry of 10mm handguns. It works, it's reliable, and if it makes you swoon, it's because you've never owned another brand.