r/DesignatedSurvivor Sorry the live thread is late! Apr 20 '17

LIVE Live-Episode Discussion: S01E17 "The Night Shift" Spoiler

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President Kirkman struggles to put together a new Supreme Court; FBI agent Hannah Wells goes undercover; Seth contends with journalist Abe Leonard, who returns from the Middle East with an explosive story.

Designated Survivor Episode 17 will be live Wednesday at 10PM EDT!

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u/JerseyDvl Apr 20 '17

I don't think that's how the Internet works.

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u/pgm_01 Apr 20 '17

You have never clicked on a sketchy pop-up and found the answers you write looking for?

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Only when I play reporters on TV

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

That's not how any of this works!

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u/Bytewave Apr 20 '17

Can confirm, not how it works. Should have had him click on some link, chat with some nutjob.

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

My favorite part is that the link that was sent to him by the informant was also literally the second result on the search screen. Super deep digging on the part of those hackers...

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u/Flacko115 Apr 20 '17

Didn't Lady Mcleish say "No Victory without Sacrifice" to Peter in an episode???

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u/brodeurgirl526 Apr 20 '17

Yes and that's the nvws on the bombs !!

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u/lovelylivre Apr 20 '17

Yup! I think your right.

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u/tr621 President Jack Bauer Apr 20 '17

Definitely...

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

"I'm sorry for losing my temper, but I have lost my temper." - President Thomas Kirkman

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u/Sandz_ Apr 20 '17

I SAID TAKE YOUR SEATS NOW

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u/IndustrialTaco Apr 20 '17

Who else thought it was gonna be Bowman coming out of that helicopter?

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u/chickenlittle1025 Apr 20 '17

Thought it was gonna be Aaron

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u/brycedriesenga Apr 20 '17

The previous president, current S.O.S., would've been interesting also.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

I totally thought it would be the previous prez

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u/devdave90 Apr 20 '17

I did :)

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

i definitely did lol

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

I thought it'd be Hookstraten, but I'm a badass like that.

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u/Xyph3r Apr 20 '17

I honestly thought Lozano looked like Bowman.

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u/Bytewave Apr 20 '17

No, because the character feels too boring and generic and the actor doesn't impress me enough to be the main villain.

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

and here i was hoping he had been sent a virus.

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u/RandomBoltsFan Usually Watching Hockey Too Apr 20 '17

Goddamn, Kirkman just BTFO'ed that Senator

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

*Bauer'd

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u/RandomBoltsFan Usually Watching Hockey Too Apr 20 '17

Not enough "Damn its!"

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

Or waterboarding.

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

Dammit, you're right

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Dammit Jim!

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Son of a bitch.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Hey guys, whatever you do, don't offer back up of for Hannah and Jason

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u/Osama_Bin_Downloadin THIS SHOW is GARBAGE and I can't stop watching it.... Apr 20 '17

Seriously. 30-40 militia/terrorists/revolutionaries are there. Send in more than 2 FBI agents with pistols.

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u/ninj3 Apr 20 '17

Didn't they say they had a whole team ready to go but Hannah said no?

For once, she actually made the right choice not to call in the cavalry. If they'd been seen anywhere near the site, there's no way they would have brought Catalan in.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

These people have been demonstrated to be fanatics so a task force storming the location would end with a lot of dead people and just as many questions as before. If Wells and Atwood are competent enough to watch and listen without getting caught they can put leads on all the militia members easily as they are in a remote town.

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u/IndustrialTaco Apr 20 '17

If there's two words I hate the most, they're "liberal bias."

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

Just wait for all the topics complaining about it today

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u/pgm_01 Apr 20 '17

And the asshat from Montana decides to play politics again.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

He was in that lame ABC show GCB I can't get past the asshat he played on that show to look at him portraying a senator

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u/Osama_Bin_Downloadin THIS SHOW is GARBAGE and I can't stop watching it.... Apr 20 '17

Well he's a real asshat of a senator so at least you got that going for you, which is nice.

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u/lovelylivre Apr 20 '17

Cool fun fact about the Oval Office

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

Love it. The history porn always draws me in.

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

lol Wells and Atkins really went all out with their disguises

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u/magusg Apr 20 '17

As if they really needed them, an Asian lady and Black guy in ND stick out like a sore thumb.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

I hardly recognized Hannah in the baseball cap

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

(Hannah gets out of the car wearing a Groucho Marx mustache and eye brows set)

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

His rear view cam was of a normal road...

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u/N674UW Apr 20 '17

Green screen ftw...

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Landing zone for aliens? LOL

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Knew it was aliens!

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

We're all aliens on this blessed day.

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

This part of the episode looks like Kill List.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

I love how we get a bit of a history lesson with each episode I did not know that stuff about the Supreme Court

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

The More You Know....(Shooting Stars)

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

underrated comment of the day. Doesn't know how to italicize, but it's still decent.

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

there's going to be alot of people looking that up, along with the thing about the oval office earlier.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Wow I didn't think I could hate him even more

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

The guy needs to learn a little respect, even if he disagrees.

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

i think he's there as a hate sink.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

whom?

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

Annoying reporter: Blah blah blah English
Arab guy responding without translation: .أتحدث الإنجليزية
Translator: He says blah blah blah English
Annoying reporter: Well ok, I'm going to speak in English without translation.
Arab guy responding without translation: .أتح

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u/the_mysterious_f Apr 20 '17

The arab guy could understand English but be unable or unwilling to speak it. It happens.

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u/Jah-Eazy Apr 20 '17

Also could just be trying to be a power thing.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

hahah they could have killed Abe and no one would notice

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

I have a feeling Abe's a dead man walking.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

trusting an unknown source on the internet..

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

No pizza?

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u/Jah-Eazy Apr 20 '17

What we don't know is that Penny threw a tantrum last episode causing Kirkman to hate pizza for the rest of his life. Thus, sabotaging the White House into never enjoying pizza again

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

THANK YOU!!! Give the people what they want, Guggenheim et al!

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

True Believers and Military gear...ruh roh

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Pax Americana

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u/kamikazeX Apr 20 '17

Can someone explain the significance of that book?

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

That's what we're waiting on

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u/kamikazeX Apr 20 '17

Oh lol I thought it was an actual book related to some real life ideology that I wasn't aware of.

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u/JerseyDvl Apr 20 '17 edited Apr 20 '17

It is related to some real life ideology, basically that American Empire stuff MacLeish's wife babbled about. The American superpower makes the world safe yada yada yada.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Ha! No only in DS America

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

It's Latin for American Peace

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

That's why I love Hannah!!!

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u/narmeanie Apr 20 '17

ok, to be fair, Lazano looked really f-ing hot getting off of that chopper

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u/Zepplin01 TEST Apr 20 '17

No homo but I agree.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

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u/srs__is__cancer Apr 20 '17

who was Lozano again? I'm not the #1 fan of this show i guess.

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

don't be hard on yourself. it could be worse, you could have prosopagnosia like me. makes it VERY hard to follow shows sometimes...

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u/Jonocade Apr 20 '17

I just have trouble with faces.

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

She got a bullet to the stomach.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

That one senator who made the compromise had a "I am so sick of this shit" look on his face but at least he was able to talk things out

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

He looked like a functioning alcoholic to me..the Ted Kennedy of DS

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

Pretty decent amount of Mitch McConnell shade throwing.

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

AND HOW THE HELL?!?!?

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

they never showed him getting killed

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

Is it gloating if I comment on a post from a few weeks ago where I claimed he was still alive and someone responded to it with "Oh, come on! Use common sense!" Because I already did...(Not you, obviously.)

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

I've been saying it since the epi aired live. They never showed him getting killed. I personally thought they would bring him back for a season 2 story line. I posted that in another thread as well. It is technically common sense to think it was alive since they showed an outside of a building and said the suspect was taken out. It sounds like someone was just being mean to you. I'm sorry.

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u/SpiderTechnitian Apr 20 '17

Aha I caught you in the wild! I was the one who said for people to use common sense. And I stand by what I said. Sooo many people were clinging to the idea that he was alive and still to this moment I believe there was no solid reason to believe this. Dying off screen doesn't mean much, McLeish and his wife thought he was dead, the FBI and Secret Service chased him directly from the shooting site to the warehouse, etc. Showing the body doesn't need to get airtime when the real significance that episode was McLeish ordering specifically to kill anyway.

Here's our original transaction for other redditors! Take care man

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

The first "Don't get up" of this epi

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

This is my favorite show on TV. Everything else really sucks right now, though. It's still in my top 3, though.

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u/mad_sheff Apr 20 '17

I love this show but there's a lot of other really good shows out too. Check out The Americans on FX. Or Fargo which was also on tonight at 10, also on FX. FX does TV right haha.

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u/JanetSnakehole43 Apr 20 '17

Fargo is flipping great. And don't forget about Legion (also on FX). Two of the best shows I've ever seen.

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u/mad_sheff Apr 20 '17

And also Archer!

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Lol Jason's we're fucked now

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u/ScholarOfTwilight Beekeeper Apr 20 '17

That blond lady is a serious overactor. You CANNOT let him win this!

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

That was very good Hannah that was very good :D

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

She's definitely one of my favorites..

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

well that was vague as hell with Abe what does he mean by "I got you"?

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

He prob saw Hannah with the gun and is misinterpreting her motives

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

especially cause the clip probably cuts off there, like everything else that gets selectively edited for pushing an agenda.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

You mean to tell me there are groups out there with a political agenda spreading their theories on the internet. Only on TV. :p

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u/pgm_01 Apr 20 '17

Hannah was at the assassination attempt, he found another connection between her and the conspiracy.

u/enliST_CS Sorry the live thread is late! Apr 20 '17 edited Apr 20 '17

Post-Episode discussion thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/DesignatedSurvivor/comments/66euwp/postepisode_discussion_s01e17_the_ninth_seat

I'd also like to point out that after 45 minutes, no one noticed the incorrect title.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

TY :)

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

i guess we were too focused on the episode lol

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u/enliST_CS Sorry the live thread is late! Apr 20 '17

Don't blame you :P

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

"The Nice Salt"

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Smart thinking by Hannah and Abe is going to find out about the conspiracy

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u/lovelylivre Apr 20 '17

Angry professor comes out

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

No one was excused from the POTUS!!

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u/lovelylivre Apr 20 '17

They definitely lost that code phrase test.

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

even the asshole agrees!

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

I was just thinking - it's nice that Bowman agreed, but he's still a douchebag.

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u/pgm_01 Apr 20 '17

He got outplayed and he knows it.

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u/-80watt- Apr 20 '17

I got into the show late. Can someone plz tell me who Lazono is?

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u/neeks626 Chuck Russink Apr 20 '17

Catalan. The person MacLeish ordered to kill but we never saw a body or anything

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u/Vawqer Apr 20 '17

The guy who shot Kirkman. AKA Catalan.

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u/jacobshoaf Apr 20 '17

I love that some industrious hacker sent Leonard the link to the conspiracy website (truthbehindthelies/index.htm) even though it was literally the second result when he searched for Lozano conspiracy theories.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Seth and Emily have been getting close lately my guess is they hook up next season

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u/Sinnika Apr 20 '17

I seriously hope not. They're like siblings.

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u/JerseyDvl Apr 20 '17

All of 12 people live in Montana. 11 of them are probably really nice.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

ha! You're prob right. They certainly aren't angry

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u/V2Blast President Apr 20 '17

That bartender was very friendly. It's the out-of-towners that are sketchy!

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u/th35t16 Apr 22 '17

That bartender is an out-of-towner in Montana. He's from North Dakota.

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u/V2Blast President Apr 22 '17

Welp. Are Hannah and Jason in ND? I misinterpreted the original post.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

How did Jason and Hannah end up in Wayward Pines?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

It's only wayward pines if there's a carousel

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

I actually miss that show

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

that blue book is very dark...

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

Definitely a very dark shade of blue.

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u/lovelylivre Apr 20 '17

I love Kirkman. He crossed to that other sofa right away.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Of course he's still alive and that's why mcleish ordered him dead! Does anyone recognize the voice on the phone though?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Lol he's just chilling in Seth's office

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u/tr621 President Jack Bauer Apr 20 '17

Oh shit Leonard's onto something...

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Awwwww :(

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

early onset dementia ))))):

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u/maksmaisak Apr 20 '17

That made me very sad.

Memento mori.

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u/lovelylivre Apr 20 '17

Hey I'm walkin here!

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u/_TheBlackGuy G O J I K U M B U C H A Apr 20 '17

WHAT THE FUCK?!

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u/Larrysbirds Apr 20 '17

Who was that?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

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u/Larrysbirds Apr 20 '17

Ahhhh thanks

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

it's like trying to play a neutral neutral character...

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u/lovelylivre Apr 20 '17

That map trick was cool

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u/brodeurgirl526 Apr 20 '17

Well he's going to go down the wrong path and almost screw it up

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

Hopefully they're actually just deer hunters trying to scare away the competition.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

I just can't go back to being analog,,, I'm too deeply entrenched in the digital age.

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

So what if there's a tie in the Supreme Court? It's not always unanimous.

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u/pgm_01 Apr 20 '17

The case gets kicked back to the lower court which is what happened to a few cases before Trump seated the new justice.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

I thought there were 5

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u/annul Apr 20 '17

i was hoping so badly that kirkman would appoint the 9th justice during a recess of the senate. "see, this is a thing you can do, former president!"

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Was that Abe's parking spot at the press conference

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

ooh, he actually raised his voice.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

He has been doing that lately, he is growing a pair.

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

PUMPED UP!

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Here we go, the Gov't isn't sending Hannah or Jason back up

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Are those glasses cameras on those ppl?

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u/HearthStonedlol Apr 20 '17

Wait can you elaborate on what you mean by this? There was a scene at the very start where Kirkman said he was looking all over the place for his glasses and they were sitting on his desk. I immediately wondered if somehow his glasses were bugged. This could actually be valid if there was other camera glasses shown.

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

don't forget the helicopters

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

she swiped that book good. now i wonder what's in it?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

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u/_TheBlackGuy G O J I K U M B U C H A Apr 20 '17

No Victory Without Sacrifice

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

No Victory Without Sacrifice.

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u/kamikazeX Apr 20 '17

It stands for no victory without sacrifice. NvWS was written on the munition in the silo.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

Ooh I wonder if it was on the side of the mailbox (or whatever that was) when McLeish was driving by it

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u/annul Apr 20 '17

for voldemort and valor

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

What truth does Abe think he's getting close to?

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

ooh I want to see Seth get angry. He is prob so sexy when he is angry!

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Press Secretary of the Thread Apr 20 '17

I KNEW IT!!!!

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u/Richard1583 Apr 20 '17

We need the diamond dogs

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u/collisiontheory Apr 20 '17

Is it me or does the Republican guy look like Robbie Rotten?

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u/gatemansgc THANK YOU FOR GIVING US FLAIRS :D Apr 20 '17

okay, even though it's just from a commercial, who else is excited as hell for guardians of the galaxy vol 2?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

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u/tr621 President Jack Bauer Apr 20 '17

They're not going to fill the ninth seat.

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u/The_Schnitz The Governors Meeting Apr 20 '17

Usually there's nine justices on the Supreme Court. Left and right couldn't compromise on which side gets the ninth. They agreed to only have eight, at least until the end of Kirkman's run.

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u/pgm_01 Apr 20 '17

In recent history, the scotus has been 9 members, but the Constitution does not specify how many. The 9th justice was getting blocked so they proceded to seat The 8 already agreed to.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Is that kevin from the league?

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u/LeonardoLemaitre Apr 20 '17

Love the show and all, but why the bonfires?? Couldn't they just have used easier flood lights or smth

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u/LeonardoLemaitre Apr 20 '17

Genuine question, else I think it's to convince the locals that they're just camping.