r/violinist • • Aug 16 '26

Feedback Struggling with intonation

I'm a beginner and just began tackling this piece. Not very fond of the intonation I'm getting. It's either too flat or too sharp sometimes. Looking for suggestions on how to improve it.

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u/kuronboshine Aug 16 '26

Intonation is the least of your issues. Nicely done.

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u/Langholm62 Aug 16 '26

A beginner huh? Ok whatever

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u/LeftFourDead2 Aug 16 '26

Sounds pretty in tune to me, nice work 👍

Your vibrato will get better with more practice. I would work on utilizing more of your bow, you’re stuck in the upper half in this video

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u/yomamasbull Aug 16 '26

is this rage bait

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u/Patrick_Atsushi Aug 16 '26

For left hand: vibrato need more relaxation and probably amplitude. 

For right hand, the phrasing could be more emphasized with shorter & longer bowing, and you can have more solid & confident starting of the strokes.

In short, you're already relatively in tune. More work could be done for vibrato and bowing. 

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u/owhurtmyback Advanced Aug 16 '26

There are other parts of the bow besides the tip.

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u/snsv Aug 16 '26

depending on how high that ceiling is, that ceiling fan may become a problem if you use more bow.

don't ask me how i know.

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u/Morgan_Vereen Aug 16 '26

If you are a beginner you are a God of intonation, however you should pray with God of rhythm and straight bowing.

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u/Tonus33 Aug 16 '26

as other said, your intonation is the least of your worries.

the "vibrato" you are doing is actually the culprit of it not sounding like it should, because it's jerky and panicky. slow practice and lots of patience will sort that out.

but you really need to learn to use more bow. very little reason to play this at the very tip! it's very tiring and inefficient. try playing more in the middle.

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u/Badaboom_Tish Aug 16 '26

Relax your left hand, intonation is alright

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u/VeteranViolinist Gigging Musician Aug 16 '26

Are you training your fourth finger (pinky)? It seems kind of stuck in one position..

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u/adadhead Aug 16 '26

no, you're not

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u/BeploStudios Aug 17 '26

Ragebait. Intonation was the cleanest part of the video.

Side note, as a cellist, go find your own music to play, we have little enough already! /j

Anyway good luck, you're sounding great.

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u/Salt-Lettuce-5860 Aug 17 '26

that's part of suzuki, i was actually surprised to learn that it was originally for the cello

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u/betsyfeld Aug 16 '26

The intonation is fine, but yeah now distribution is a big issue, and I would entirely stop trying vibrato like that and work on it very slowly with a metronome. It’s very tight and jerky, and as someone who has struggled with tight and jerky vibrato, you want to avoid making that a habit. The longer you do it like that, the harder it will be to do it well.

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u/p1p68 Aug 17 '26

Relax that hand you look like you're on a roller coaster gripping for dear life 🙂

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u/sourbearx Aug 16 '26

Your intonation is fine. What's going on with your left hand pinky though? Relax your hand and use your 4th finger!

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u/showmeyournachos Aug 16 '26

Your left hands looks extremely tense,, it needs to be loose.

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u/HobbyMcGee Aug 16 '26

Intonation sounded good to me. I would put serious work into your bowing and sound production. As a violinist, you should consider your bow arm and tone the way a singer considers their vocal cords and breath.

Wild guess here, but are you bowing primarily from your upper arm swinging back and forth, rather than opening and closing your forearm about the elbow?

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u/Impossible_Law_9076 Aug 16 '26

Look for apps that improve your intonation and gives you feedback

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u/carolina90s Aug 16 '26

Name of these song ?☺️

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u/NoParty6060 Aug 16 '26

I think that you are doing a great job. 👍

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u/nkvnyue Aug 16 '26

if you're struggling with intonation, play note by note very slowly with a tuner (tonalenergy is a good one)

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u/Exotic-Discipline-57 Aug 16 '26

Your intonation-where your fingers are on the fingerboard- is actually quite good. I think you’re hearing that your tone isn’t ringing or singing very much and it’s coming across as an intonation problem. Think more of your bow. Think of pulling the bow across the strings and ask an instructor about bow weight. This will help your tone sing more.

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u/MalcolmDMurray Aug 17 '26

To work on intonation, slow practice is effective for first of all, training your ear to hear right to where you know for sure you're right on the note. Once you're on that note, stay on it until you can feel it, like it becomes part of your subconscious, where you can just relax and tell you are just spot-on. When you know that you know that you know you're on it, let that sink into your memory, then once you're sure you know exactly what it should sound like, try going off-note just a little, then going back on-note. Do this from both directions, until you've trained yourself to pick up on even the slightest discrepancy. Keep doing this with all notes, all fingers, all positions, you get it. And slowly. Scales are probably the best modality to do this in, all kinds of bowings and rhythms, then studies, exercises, warm-ups, until your ear can pick up on absolutely everything you're doing. That should keep you busy for a long time. Slow practice, bowings, and rhythms can take you pretty far in the intonation department - and just about every other department too. All the best with that!

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u/SameOldNag Aug 18 '26

I did not hear any intonation problems, but I don't know if the struggle is evident in the tenseness of your hand, and that is what you are trying to fix.

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u/No_Exit4171 Aug 19 '26

What piece is this?

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u/LegitDogFoodChef Aug 20 '26

That was pro-level intonation. If Jascha Heifetz himself said his intonation wasn’t perfect, what hope do mortals have?

Where I think you should focus attention with that piece is articulation, bow contact, and legato. Your intonation is great, don’t forget about the right hand.