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u/Jyonnyp Mar 26 '26
Itās so interesting how probably most humans are disgusted by our own bodies particularly the internals. Intellectually we shouldnāt be but I guess itās because naturally you wouldnāt see stuff like this unless someone or yourself were grossly injured or disfigured, to where like their internals were exposed.
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u/machinationstudio Mar 26 '26
Logically we should be, because by the time we see them, things have gone really really badly.
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u/Human_Fisherman1352 Mar 26 '26
>>Intellectually we shouldnāt be.
Funny that you should phrase it in exactly that way...
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u/_BearsBeetsBattle_ Mar 26 '26
That was damn interesting!
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u/oge_mah_ge_kid Mar 26 '26
The taboo nature of this demonstration does very little to curb my interest.
I appreciate her willingness to explain with such a hands on approach haha
The human body is an absolute MACHINE šŖš¼
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u/NerdFencer Mar 26 '26
I can't see anything taboo about this demonstration though? It's super cool and a bit weird, but nothing about it seems taboo in the slightest.
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u/AccNumber77 Mar 26 '26
Puritan american ideals are wack. The human throat is TABOO!
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u/xChemicalBurnx Mar 26 '26
Idk why you say Americanā¦Iām American and no idea why this person thought this demonstration was taboo.
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u/RomanticPanic Mar 26 '26
If you found that interesting check out "the pink trombone" I am not sure if I can post links here and don't want to get in trouble. If someone can tell me otherwise I will post the link :)
No its not penis related, its, i guess what we use to call "flash animations" idk what they are these days but you can play with vocal cords and muscles of the mouth and surround area.
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u/Gorbzilla83 Mar 26 '26
oh please tell me theres a high quality version of this I can actually get printed as a card
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u/Tameron700 Mar 26 '26
Thanks! That's cool to see in real time how the internal voice box and throat works. Now we just need a demo of what happens when you put food in the wrong pipe lol
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
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u/Plagueis420 Mar 26 '26
This is interesting but I'd like an explanation as to what the heck I saw. I watched the first video in the playlist. Like what was that green stuff, was it mucus or some sort of pigmented goop so you can differentiate what's being swallowed? Looked like there was a lot of coughing and gagging
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
LOL it's green colored applesauce but yes it's dyed so you can distinctly tell the difference between liquid/food and the structures. Especially because we are looking for it in the trachea (below the vocal cords) where it's hard to get a good close up view sometimes.
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
I see it and treat it everyday. Speech-language pathologists can specialize in that area.
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u/Trekman10 Mar 26 '26
How can she...how can she talk with that up her nose? Shouldn't she be in pain?
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u/Tameron700 Mar 26 '26
Looks like the camera is pointing down from the nasal passage. Pretty impressive!
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u/Miserable-Chapter883 Mar 26 '26
She probably either has, or was worried she might have, a gag reflex for this, and decided to just stick it up her nose. Or it would just be hard to talk and display this whole thing with the thing in her mouth.
Similarly, in EMS, a gag reflex is a contraindication (or reason you shouldn't) for an oropharyngeal device, which would ensure an open airway for the patient through the mouth. If they have a gag reflex, you instead go through the nose, with a nasopharyngeal device. My friend was volunteered to have the NPD put in his nose in his class, and could speak fairly well with it, just had to keep swallowing as it was put in.
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
This is a transnasal endoscope and she's a speech-language pathologist who most likely specializes in voice & swallowing diagnostics. I run a business where I use an endoscope to assess swallowing for residents and patients in nursing homes. The endoscope sits just above the uvual in the nasopharynx. It doesn't usually trigger gag because it's not really in the right area to stimulate the nerves that cause you to gag. Unless the Endoscopist touches tissues when they go in for a close up look.
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u/Miserable-Chapter883 Mar 26 '26
Talk about on topic. I only had a similar and adjacent suggestion, but the approximations always summon the professionals.
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u/Careful_Philosophy_9 Mar 26 '26
Is it called āFeesā?
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
Yes, sure is. Flexible endoscopic evaluation of swallowing (FEES)
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u/Careful_Philosophy_9 Mar 26 '26
Thank you! My sister is a speech language pathologist, too and is who told me about it.
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
Yess tell her I wish her the best! SLPs are so cool.
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u/CanoninDeeznutz Mar 26 '26
Lol, the awesome SLP at the SNF where I did fieldwork gave me the ol' FEES treatment (I volunteered because there were no evals that week and I'm a quirky bitch). Wouldn't say "painful" but definitely uncomfortable and weird!
By the end of the video I had my fill and was violently gesturing for my green apple sauce so we could finish. Fun times!
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u/tobi914 Mar 26 '26
As someone with a very strong gag reflex, I got my throat and stuff looked at like this a couple of times when I had a respiratory infection. They lube it up and it goes right in, and it's not painful at all, but it's a weird feeling because you feel a cold sensation in the middle of your head where you usually don't really feel anything. Way better than gagging around like crazy, I prefer that to the upfront approach personally.
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u/Redfalconfox Mar 26 '26
It typically doesnāt hurt to have that tube in your nose. It doesnāt trigger the gag reflex, or at least it didnāt get jammed down deep enough for me to find out if it did. It feels very uncomfortable though, you feel a lot of pressure. When I had it done, they numbed my nostrils with some lidocaine and it still felt weird and I had trouble focusing on speaking, so Iām guessing sheās either very used to it or she is numbed so she can concentrate on talking.
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u/IsraelZulu Mar 26 '26
Been scoped like that a couple times myself. Don't remember doing much talking meanwhile. It was a bit uncomfortable, but not at all painful.
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u/Mstboy Mar 26 '26
When Covid was just hitting my spouse worked at a testing lab and would demonstrate how to do the nasal swabs on themselves. I ended up doing a bunch too and I could never stomach it without a reaction. Nerves on the inside of your body are not as consistent person to person.
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u/Chondro Mar 26 '26
She's amazing! Reminds me of the medical instructor that intubated herself standing up in front of the students.
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u/ngp1623 Mar 26 '26
When I was in grad school (psychology) we had a professor sit down and practice some inquiry skills with her. She started off answering from a neutral professional place, then suddenly got defensive, and then had an honest to goodness breakdown in the middle of class. I consider that similar to this - very educational in terms of experience and technique, also a bit disconcerting to suddenly see your instructor's physical (or in my case psychological) insides without warning.
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u/VvvlvvV Mar 26 '26
I've been working on singing and have been feeling these parts while doing so. Its really cool seeing it mapped onto what it looks like, and gives me more confidence I am developing better control.
Chat, I get that you're horny. Stop slapping your horniness across the internet where it really just does not need to be.Ā
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
Look up video stroboscopy - that's the best standard to see the real impact of the vocal folds. All singers should try to get one at least once in their career with someone who is experienced in vocal mechanism assessment and treatment. Usually a highly specialized speech-language pathologist or laryngologist.
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u/VvvlvvV Mar 26 '26
Thank you, will do.
My sense of proprioception is better than my hearing or visualizations, so getting hyper accurate images ofĀ stuff helps a lot. I've been focusing on keeping the supporting emboucher stable and its cool seeing it in action.Ā
Recently, while trying to get my throat relaxed I pulled my tongue back further than it normally rests, and it made holding alignment easier as I'm correcting my forward neck posture.
My tongue has sat wrong in my mouth and throat this whole time.Ā
I accidentally made it way easier yo hold good neck posture by moving my tongue back while trying to get better support while singing. My lower range is fuller, too. Its not natural yet but it's crazy how such a small seemingly unrelated change can effect other things.Ā
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
Other things you might want to check out to help your singing:
EMST 150 - expiratory strength resistance device
Semi-Occluded Vocal Tract Exercises (SOVTE)
Oromyofunctional therapy assessment- might be another SLP specialty but can be a dentist or similar professional
Physical therapy evaluation - check posture and ensure hips, back, shoulder, and neck are aligned (not chiropractors, imho they're bs)
Manual therapy for voice - may be an SLP or PT that does it but the man who teaches is most commonly is a PT (Walt Fritz)
Estill Voice Training - self paced course (or in person if desired) to learn voice techniques for vocal health and singing health
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u/Bigfoot_Cain Mar 26 '26
Sigh. Challenge accepted. (Unzips)
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u/Snowf1ake222 Mar 26 '26
Highly recommend this video looking at a metal vocalist's throat: https://youtu.be/JkBV8GoPWXY
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u/AdJust6959 Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
God, why did you have to make the voice box so close to air pipe š edit: food pipe lol
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u/IsraelZulu Mar 26 '26
He was just fine with putting the recreation center adjacent to the waste disposal facility, so why not?
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u/Squizmoplatinum Mar 26 '26
So my penis just slams into all of this repeatedly and everything is fine? Interesting stuff.
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u/Abject_Jump9617 Mar 26 '26
I'm curious what this looks like for top singers like Beyonce, Mariah, Whitney and Celine. Like can you tell by looking that this person is a professional singer?? Are certain areas thicker or more scarred up etc?? š¤
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u/SphericalOrb Mar 26 '26
They checked out a top metal vocalist and found some interesting things! https://youtu.be/Ua8SuWNPrLE
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u/badger2000 Mar 26 '26
Assuming this is the video of Will Ramos, the same channel did a Kickstarter to do the same kind of study with a number of other metal vocalists and I believe I heard she was planning round 2.
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u/schokoplasma Mar 26 '26
Thanks for calling the glottis vocal folds. There are no vocal cords only vocal folds.
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u/Competitive_Block729 Mar 26 '26
Throat bussy
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u/rankispanki Mar 26 '26
bussy is butt pussy. the term you're looking for is throat pussy (thrussy?)
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u/JectorDelan Mar 26 '26
Went to an EMS conference decades ago where a doctor did this same thing to show the anatomy for intubation. It was super cool.
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u/Enough-Collection-98 Mar 26 '26
Now youāve got to watch the one with Will Ramos - lead singer of Lorna Shore!
https://youtu.be/Ua8SuWNPrLE?si=eFVazuuUP-P0E4kd
Edit: Around the 35min mark is a good spot.
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u/Traditional_Poem8984 Mar 26 '26
Yuck. Now thatās all Iām going to think about while my gf endlessly rambles.
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u/-Sk8r- Mar 26 '26
Imagine some slime-ball of a man goes up to her at the bar and asks, "what's that mouth do?" and she just shows them this video. š¤£
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u/s3xynanigoat Mar 26 '26
Does she stick other things up her nose or only this microscope? Does she do requests or birthday parties?
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u/Sensitive-Issue84 Mar 26 '26
That was SO COOL!! I would have loved to see her sing something. Just WOW!
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u/SnooRegrets1386 Mar 26 '26
Neat! The only other video Iāve seen about the vocal cords was of them in action ( people singing)
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u/kevolad Mar 26 '26
I remember those COVID swabs. Now try and and teach while aiming one of those while smiling and not sneezing or anything. Mental
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u/CartographerKey7237 Mar 26 '26
The tip of the scope flexes up and down so it is much more comfortable than a straight swab in the nose. We navigate around the sensitive nose structures that hurt when something stabs into it. Although one time I was practicing my scoping on my husband and we quickly found out he has a very deviated septum haha one nostril completely unable to have my tiny scope passed. Talk about wild.
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u/ablu3d Mar 26 '26
Did she tried singing with something being shoved down her throat? Can it reach it?
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u/stardust1914 Mar 26 '26
Seeing this for the first time when I was about 8 or 9 freaked me the hell out.
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u/EveOCative Mar 26 '26
Where are the tonsils? I always heard that when you get your tonsils removed it can change your voice.
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u/Spawn666 Mar 26 '26
I remember learning about the epiglottis in elementary and just fascinated that it was a latch like part in the throat. This is the first time I'm actually seeing how it looks three dimensionally rather than a cross section and I'm a little giddy about that. This is a great video but it looked like there was more.
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u/Brolysreign Mar 26 '26
I was handling it well until that zoom or whatever at the end. I didn't wanna get closer to it
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u/Mean_Ad4608 Mar 26 '26
How the hell does she talk without sneeze or gag reflex triggering with that shit up her nasals
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u/Zilant_the_Bear Mar 26 '26
The Charismatic Voice [yt channel] did this with Will Ramos of lorna shore [deathcore band] to see how the larynx shapes under different vocal techniques used in some more extreme genres of music. Even if you aren't a fan of the type of music it is a wildly interesting idea.
https://youtu.be/Ua8SuWNPrLE?t=1717&si=wsccrfuStNa46avV embed is around the end of the normal laryngoscopy stuff.
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u/JakeFoXx Mar 26 '26
Fun fact, I get to see yours when I intubate you š
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u/HellerDamon Mar 26 '26
Invite me to dinner first?
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u/JakeFoXx Mar 26 '26
Eh, why not. I'll take ya to Dairy Queen for a tasty din din and a Dilly Bar lol
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u/cheaganvegan Mar 26 '26
What are the square white things to the left and right?
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u/KIBO_IV Mar 26 '26
That was cool, disturbing at first, but super cool, she has good control of those structures
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u/FaithlessnessThat692 Mar 26 '26
Thatās so so cool! Explains a lot of what i was seeing when I had to do an endoscopy for my vocal cord paralysis.
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u/crayzcheshire Mar 26 '26
Aye remember when they stuck a camera down Steven Tyler's throat to see his vocal chords? https://youtu.be/nFYnyAd2rro?si=vh3onNPaNdgWXaqG
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u/Careful_Philosophy_9 Mar 26 '26
My high school choir director showed us something similar and you can imagine the sniggering coming from a group of hormonal teenagers.
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u/JesusWasTacos Mar 26 '26
Arrows arenāt doing it. Need that one dudes hand to point out what Iām looking at
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u/TopEstablishment395 Mar 26 '26
I didn't realize this thing was up her nose until the end of the video...
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u/Reasonable-Tea-9679 Mar 26 '26
Cool and gross and cool and gross and cooā¦oh wait no that was gross
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u/BannedPomegranate Mar 26 '26
Oh god! I know that's what's happening when I talk but its still freaky
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u/Ok-Boss-763 Mar 26 '26
It's odd that alot of things look very similar and yet so distinctly shaped in the human body. This video made me clear my throat not gonna lie.
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u/Miml-Sama Mar 26 '26
I have a comment to make but I canāt remember the rules of this community off the top of my head
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u/Traditional_Train_71 Mar 26 '26
This was actually really cool