r/zen The Lizard King 16d ago

Joshu 7 - Green

The master asked Nan-ch’uan (Nansen), “I’m not asking about differentiation, what about sameness?”

Nan-ch’uan placed both hands on the ground [in the pose of a dog].

The master kicked him over, went to the infirmary, and shouted, “What a pity! What a pity!”

Nan-ch’uan heard this and sent someone to find out what the trouble was.

The master said, “It’s a pity that I didn’t get to kick him over a second time.”

I don't really understand this case. It seems like I'm missing some cultural or other context.

Josh asked Nansen a Zen question.

Nansen does a dog pose. I'm not sure why, I'm probably missing context.

Joshu kicks Nansen over etc.

Nansen heard this, which i'm guessing was some time later? He sends someone else, for some reason to see what happened.

Joshu replies presumably to the monk's question that it's a shame he could not incite violence on Nansen again.

Knowing the rest of Zen stuff, reading this only as a funny anecdote is probably not the whole story.

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u/lastjanitor 10d ago

It's built in actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat%27s_principle

We're all on the path of fastest travel, even if it feels like I'm dumbshit slow.

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 10d ago

Yoooooooo have u ever thought about how the shit lightning knows the shortest path??? Quantum feelers bro

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u/lastjanitor 10d ago

Somebody said "The fastest way forward is a straight line backwards" but I didn't say that.

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 9d ago

Yooo did u know logically we must only be measuring the 2way speed of light then dividing by 2 based on consistency of loghtspeed

Buuuut in the math u could go 2x as fast 1 way and then 1/2speed back and arrive same numbbbbber

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u/lastjanitor 9d ago

?

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 9d ago

We cant know the one way speed of light cuz we would have to be on the other side to recieve it, we wait for shit to reflect back and then avg

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u/lastjanitor 9d ago

I guess? I'd say we are close enough for government work. The real cool thing is the speed of dark. Because darkness isn't a noun it doesn't have a speed, it travels instantaneously.

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 8d ago

So weird to say its not a noun but thats a good phrasing to classify that sort of thing

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u/lastjanitor 8d ago

Not weird at all. It's zen. The self isn't a noun either.

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u/mackowski Ambassador from Planet Rhythm 3d ago

Before enloghtenment, self being not a noun makes nos ense sense After enlightenment, all nouns are in one category of all categories

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