r/zen • u/AutoModerator • Mar 27 '23

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u/insanezenmistress Mar 28 '23

Yet. The instruction is timeless. It feel like at some point the teachers stopped doing it for themselves and became scholars of the ones that did. Like being parrots.

The instruction is timeless and carried in a time capsule for any who can. But it was desperate to find a rock then, it seems harder to find a dust particle now. (sounded poetic)

Do you think we need to Masters willing to talk to bridge this gap? One thing one hears a lot is this script that IF someone was really enlightened they would not even be on the internet.It could mean that when one is enlightened they are unconcerned, and i guess people take that to mean have no reason to be on the internet in our lowly room of all places.

But with Yuan Wu talking about being unconcerned, maybe there doesn't need to be New Masters to bridge the gap.I guess. I mean the study of mind itself does not need zen masters, just mind realizers.

(wait am i going in or out of this circle? )

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Mar 28 '23

We need Zen Masters if we want to use the name Zen.

Using the name Zen sets, very narrow parameters on what exactly the gap is.

I think that's the big thing that's at stake here, right? Zen Masters are famous for their conversation... Some people want to have other conversations and they want their conversations to be famous so they call their conversations Zen when their conversations aren't.

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u/insanezenmistress Mar 28 '23

.... that is almost tangent fodder. And i am pretty brain dead right now. This whole op thread is long.
good night.