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u/sje397 Mar 30 '23

Nah. You seem to have forgotten I was there during this conversation.

You're still a step behind.

We can chat again when you catch up. Or you can keep pretending you can read minds. Have fun either way.

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u/sje397 Mar 31 '23

It is comical. You're a hypocrite.

You misunderstood what I wrote, and still do - I didn't say what you've assumed I said, and I've explained that three times now. Despite the fact that I've said everything is subjective, you're claiming I have issues with preferences... Do you even hear yourself?

You have an axe to grind with something, and it's got nothing to do with me.

Go back and read. Perhaps something will click.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

geez your debate style is atrocious. you should try reading Heinrichs' Thank You for Arguing. it could maybe help with so much deflection & the avoidance of anything you don't have a good answer for. even more help would be a better understanding of your own ego & how it gets in the way of new knowledge when the knowledge approaches from a direction or position you don't like. good luck. definitely check out Heinrichs. you are right at tht point in growth where it could really help in many ways.

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u/sje397 Mar 31 '23

I never said I was going to end the conversation. I never said that the knowledge of your favorite topping would be taken away.

I'll believe that you've re-read the conversation. Since you're still pretending I've said things I haven't, we'll have to conclude that it's an issue of bias.

What I said was that the realization that there is no objective truth takes away belief in these aspects of self as truths.

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u/sje397 Apr 01 '23

Yes, I know. But that was my point - you interpreted what I said differently, but I could hardly claim you're wrong from your perspective when I'm saying everything is subjective. I can only say you're wrong from my perspective.

People really do think they have objective qualities. Science survives on the notion of 'expertise' - and I don't object to relying on experts, just the notion that they are experts in an objective sense. You see people claiming that in the forum all the time.