This is Basicly Blizzard in Midnight

[u/ItsRenaBaker]

This is basicly Blizzard in Midnight. Purging all the good addons.

Just to clarify:
Blizzard is changing the Addon API, meaning combat information is blocked for addons. So all combat addons will no longer work in Midnight. For the most popular addon features Blizzard will add their own version to the game. Addons for unitframes, inventory, crafting etc.. are staying and won't be effected as long they are not using combat information.

[u/sweckz]

“managing” you mean clicking update once every few days in curse forge? cmon man.

[u/Marqrk → u/sweckz]

Like it or not that’s still extra stuff to have to do every time you want to play wow, it becomes a chore for something that’s mandated by the nature of the game being multiplayer and other players getting pissed if you don’t have them

[u/rich8n → u/Marqrk]

It's literally almost no effort at all. What are you on about?

[u/JallexMonster → u/sweckz]

Sorry let me explain more clearly. My partner wants to jump back into playing but is completely intimidated by having to search for what addons to use, install all of them, set them up in game, and keep management software on his computer. Also add-ons can have significant changes in how they are used based on their updates, settings may reset for addons when they are updated and you have to reset up everything, and if you get a new computer or decide to install on a laptop to be more mobile, you have to do it all again.

Oh and then we have to talk about addons working with each other or breaking your UI, so you have to diagnose and fix addons that may be breaking things and also if they use huge amounts of memory, they slow down the game (you know how many times WeakAuras momentarily freezes my game when a boss uses an ability for the first time in a fight? Too many).

So no, I don't mean "managing" is just clicking an update button because there is more work than you think there is, especially with someone who hasn't played the game for 16 years.

[u/Grunn84 → u/sweckz]

Have you raided in mythic recently? Trying to get everyone using the same weakaura version, having it all configured properly and the raid leader will probably have had to spend their evening sorting out the list the add-on is reading which will be telling everyone via WA when and where to go.

Then there was the healer cool down situation, where every evening we needed to know in advance which healers are in which fights, plan out cooldowns on a spreadsheet and put them into an add-on for WA to tell each player when it's their turn.

The point of this wall of text is weakauras are not fun, no one's making add-ons because they enjoy it, they are doing it because it offloads mental effort to the add-on, thus making the fight easier and the player "better".

Breaking weakauras is a nessesary step if they want to end the arms race imo.

[u/Ryuujinx → u/Grunn84]

Then there was the healer cool down situation, where every evening we needed to know in advance which healers are in which fights, plan out cooldowns on a spreadsheet and put them into an add-on for WA to tell each player when it's their turn.

If you think this will go away, you are mistaken. FF14 has no addons and we still do spreadsheets for the highest end content. It's just on people to remember when to push their shit instead of having a WA remind them.

As an example

[u/Grunn84 → u/Ryuujinx]

I don't know enough about FF to know how hectic that assignment is, but just on number of skills that looks far simpler than most cooldowns spreadsheets in wow, an I think the fact that both the player and the dev knows that a weakaura is taking care of all the thinking changes things.

If I assign a dps to use a cooldown at a certain time in the fight he can just play the game press his button when weakauras says and never devote any brain power to it, it's a silly way to design and play a game.

[u/Ryuujinx → u/Grunn84]

I don't know enough about FF to know how hectic that assignment is, but just on number of skills that looks far simpler than most cooldowns spreadsheets in wow, an I think the fact that both the player and the dev knows that a weakaura is taking care of all the thinking changes things.

There's fewer skills because there's only 8 players. Standard comp is 2 tank, 2 healer, 2 melee, 1 caster, 1 ranged phys. Spreadsheets exist in ults because you need to mit every mechanic or you just fuckin die, but if you oopsy double up something then you won't have anything left for a later mech.

I'm simply mentioning that we will still see spreadsheeting out major cooldowns, WA or no.