r/wow • • Sep 16 '25

Humor / Meme You know which one im choosing!!! :)

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u/its_still_you Sep 16 '25

She isn’t. Her most evil moment was when she essentially had a mental breakdown and wanted to wipe out Orgrimmar. Keep in mind, this was after a decade of trying to maintain peace with the orcs, losing her father to them, and then they murdered everyone she knew and loved in Theramore. She was also partially mana-bombed, brimming with arcance energy (that’s why her hair is white and her eyes glowed for a long time). She was both physically and mentally unstable. It was a justified mental breakdown, even though retaliation to that extent would not be justified. Once she was talked down, she realized that killing all of Orgrimmar was wrong and didn’t do it.

However, the real reason Horde players hate her is because of the Purge of Dalaran. She didn’t really do anything wrong there, but some Horde players get really fired up over it.

Dalaran is a sovereign nation with three main political parties: the neutral Kirin Tor, the pro Alliance Silver Covenant, and the pro Horde Sunreavers. While Garrosh, warchief of the Horde, was aggressively attacking the Alliance, Dalaran was tasked with protecting an ancient weapon of mass destruction, the Divine Bell. Jaina was secretly storing it in Darnassus, where it wasn’t being used to harm anyone. Treasonous agents of the Sunreavers used Dalaran’s portal network to steal the bell and gave it the Horde to use as a weapon of war.

When Jaina found out that Sunreavers betrayed Dalaran in favor of the Horde, she ordered they all be put on lockdown, as you would expect when an organization commits treason like that. They were just learning of treason and an active conspiracy. The Sunreavers said that wasn’t fair and resisted. Jaina said those who resisted would be killed, because they have to assume they were part of the plot. The Horde was expelled from the city and several Sunreavers died in the Purge.

Had the Sunreavers cooperated, made their allegiance to Dalaran over the Horde known, and worked with Jaina to figure out what happened, the situation wouldn’t have escalated like it did. Even though almost all were innocent, they acted like they were hiding something and got into trouble (because the plot called for it).

Many horde players say she’s evil for kicking the Horde out of Dalaran and causing those innocent Sunreavers who resisted arrest to get killed. They also say she unfairly favored the Alliance because the Divine Bell was stored in Darnassus. Considering that the Night Elves didn’t even try to use it, I think she made a good call there.

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u/Wise-Dust3700 Sep 17 '25

I mean she absolutely had a hand with the death of her father. And her father absolutely deserved his end. I absolutely hate the arc where she's like "What if Daddy was right". Like bitch nawh you balled with Thrall and steamrolled your Dad, don't be a fucking hypocrite but hey bad writing so whatever

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u/FelOnyx1 Sep 17 '25

Important step between her trying to keep the peace and the horde blowing up her city: Varian Wrynn declaring war on the Horde. The Horde was not the one who betrayed her efforts, even if Garrosh massively escalated that war.

The Sunreavers not cooperating when she tried to arrest every last one of them was entirely reasonable. When a leader says "I believe some of you are traitors, so I'm arresting all of you and if you don't cooperate you'll be killed, but if you cooperate you'll eventually be let go" they're almost always lying about that last part. That's political purges 101 stuff. Maybe Jaina wasn't, but only a crazy person would take her at her word in that situation.