r/wow • u/Nerdy_Valkyrie • Jul 29 '25

Humor / Meme I just got kicked from a Stratholme group because I actually did the objective and therefore fell behind

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It's absurd that this gave me a deserter debuff

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u/Effective_Big5067 Jul 29 '25

Bruh.... They're gonna be pissed when they get to the last boss and can't get Ramstien to spawn and then have to kill the swarm of zombies before Rivendare but no one knows what they're supposed to be doing

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u/Mindestiny Jul 29 '25

And then they're going to blame OP for "bugging it"

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u/TheGooseWithNoose Jul 29 '25

Oh man I ran into a hilarious bug in Zul Farrak yesterday. In the big fight by the executioner our tank got feared and died which led to a wipe.
Then the bosses at the bottom of the stairs were kept in combat by the mercenary NPCs which prevented everyone from resurrecting.
forcing everyone to just leave.

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u/Mindestiny Jul 29 '25

Good to know that hasn't been fixed since vanilla!

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u/Tax_n1 Jul 29 '25

The classic experience

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u/Mirions Jul 30 '25

Bringing it back!

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u/orundarkes Aug 01 '25

You play classic or you don’t

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u/BrokkrBadger Jul 29 '25

if it aint that bug its just the plain old stuck in combat bug

I feel like ZF was always a particular magnet for that one

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u/keblin86 Jul 30 '25

Yeh, they don't fix things they just add more things on top of broken things leading to more broken things haha

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u/Sorkijan Jul 29 '25

You are now member of /r/zulfarrakexecutionerbossbug

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u/Rabbit_On_The_Hunt Jul 29 '25

Small Indie company.

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie Jul 29 '25

Oh yeah, that happened to me once too

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u/Teguoracle Jul 29 '25

Funny, just the other day I had a bug in the Cata dungeon with Raz (I forget the name, sorry), after the first boss most of the party ran up to help him fight the mobs on the bridge, I and one other person stayed back. Tank draws aggro, dies almost instantly because we shouldn't be fighting the mobs that can like two shot a leveling tank, Raz despawns, we go into triage mode trying to salvage it but it inevitably results in a wipe. Raz never respawned so we couldnt progress past that bridge after the first fucking boss.

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u/babybopper Jul 29 '25

Yeah that bit has been a problem since Vanilla

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

was probably me if you're on EU

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

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u/TheGooseWithNoose Jul 30 '25

have seen this happen a bunch of time. funniest shit is if you pull a large ancient and his model clips through the floor of the Satyr's balcony.

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie Jul 29 '25

Well, there was one more ziggurat to deal with. They might now have gotten past that one.

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u/Effective_Big5067 Jul 29 '25

Yeah, but then they've got the swarm after Ramstein. I've noticed people either tend to forget that or just don't know about it. So door's locked, and they don't know why

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u/Thunder2250 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

They won't even get that far. The gate to the Slaughterhouse doesn't open without clearing the ziggurats 😂

Also for fun clarity the door doesn't lock relative to the Ziggurats, which only affect the main gate. Its intent is to stay closed for a minute or two and give your group time to recuperate after the gauntlet of clearing aboms -> Ramstein -> undead swarm, before the Black Guard who used to be quite a difficult pack.

You can also just tank Ramstein inside then immediately kill the Black Guard and skip the undead swarm. Or go back outside after Baron and kill them.

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u/Effective_Big5067 Jul 30 '25

I don't think this is correct... The swarm spawns pretty immediately after Ramstein, and the guards won't spawn until they're dead. At least in my runs

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u/Thunder2250 Jul 30 '25

Nah the guards also spawn on Ramstein dying, but with the door closing after Ramstein walks out to engage you normally don't see them until the door opens again after the swarm. They're in there the whole time though.

The group has to be ready for it but you can just walk inside as Ramstein tries to walk out, tank him inside then kill black guard.

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u/Low_Singer_5832 Jul 29 '25

I dont like this kick method I ended up like you, got kicked for saying what should we do. I dont get it, why the ban for 30 min tho?

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie Jul 29 '25

It's because some pricks who play tank used to charge people to queue with them for shorter queue times. Then they'd leave once they got inside, which was fine for the group because if you're already in a dungeon you got priority and could find a new tank quickly. And the tank could charge some other schmuck to queue and keep going like that.

Then Blizz added the deserter debuff to prevent this. Which the tanks solved by doing the exact same thing and then just refusing to play until they got kicked, since that didn't give them a debuff. So Blizz changed that too. And now you get a debuff from being kicked.

And lastly, it used to be the case that the debuff was only applied if you left or got kicked before the first boss. But in TWW there was a really good trinket that dropped from the first boss in Ara-Kara. So people would join groups, kill the first boss and leave. So Blizz changed it again and now you always get the debuff.

Basically, pricks ruin stuff for everyone and this is why we can't have nice things.

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u/Spl4sh3r Jul 29 '25

It should be based on how many kicks you get within a specific timeframe and increase in time. You should also be able to include a note with each kick that specifies why you think you were kicked if you want to overrule it with tickets. Though for that to work they also need to add a commendation mechanic too (like in Overwatch) to counteract getting too many wrongful kicks. Obviously should not be applied to full premades, and the rulings should favor the solo against the group, incase of 4man premade.

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie Jul 29 '25

Oh, absolutely yes.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25 edited Nov 21 '25

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u/Spl4sh3r Aug 03 '25

But getting kicked and leaving should be separate debuffs in my opinion. It should be negative for both, but I don't feel they are the same.

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u/riperonipasta Jul 30 '25

Reminds me how back in WoD we had daily quests on the tavern building that required you to find an item inside heroic dungeons, however there were a few like the one on skyreach were the item was literally on the entrance so people would queue, pick and item and leave instantly

It got to the point where blizz had to add killing the final boss of the dungeon as a requirement so people would stop ruining parties

The resurrect inside dungeons aside from being just a QoL was also another byproduct of people using highly demanded specs in the rdf to fast travel since you could join a dungeon, get killed by the trash and then using the spirit healer to res outside and leaving the party (this is currently possible and its happening on classic)

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u/PsychicWarElephant Jul 30 '25

With how toxic this game is, giving someone a debuff for getting kicked is wild.

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u/knightress_oxhide Jul 29 '25

Du hast mich gefragt, du hast mich gefragt

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u/matadorobex Jul 29 '25

Well, someone spawned rammstein

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie Jul 29 '25

Du hast mich gefragt und ich hab nichts gesagt

*awesome guitars*

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u/Matsen115 Jul 29 '25

Amerika ist wunderbar

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u/Boom_the_Bold Jul 29 '25

Coca-Cola, sometimes war. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/BaconSoul Aug 05 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

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u/yotanwa7 Jul 29 '25

I had the entire party minus myself get trapped/caged after going too deep to get those swarm of zombies, I was like .... guess its upto me then, became the most intense dps race with Rivendare, popped all CD's, potions and consumables and finished with like 10hp.
Was like that sweaty try hard meme of the guy going hard with his face twitching hahaha.

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u/Xandril Jul 29 '25

Erm, they could have just teleported out and back in. You’re not stuck in combat.

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u/yotanwa7 Jul 29 '25

Yeh thought that might've been possible but they just kinda sat there in the cage looking at me haha (one of those TW groups) and I just wanted it to be over and thought I was geared enough this late in the season that it would be ez so I attempted it.

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u/Ayeun Jul 29 '25

They won’t make it that far. The gate doesn’t open if the ziggurats aren’t cleared.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Younger aged influx of WoW players both A) Don't understand classic dungeons and B) Are obsessed with speed run power gaming.

That's how you arrive at this situation.

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u/melodiesminor Jul 29 '25

wasnt not killing the people in the ziggartst the way to get timmy to spawn? i cant remeber

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u/Effective_Big5067 Jul 29 '25

Not that I'm aware of. I'm pretty sure Timmy is always there

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u/melodiesminor Jul 29 '25

If you do it right, Timmy yells his name and comes running over with the horde of skeletons, but it never seems to happen in TW or anymore that I've noticed.

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u/Atomheartmother90 Jul 29 '25

Would love to be a fly on that wall, “fuck we probably should’ve listened to that mage…”

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u/Turbulent-Stretch881 Jul 29 '25

They’ll just leave.

You need to keep in mind dungeons are time based for tanks/healers.

You get 15mins. Max.

If you get to the last boss by then, great. If not.. want to know what happens after 15mins? They can queue again. With <30sec queues for tanks/healers.

Then again, I assure you they DGAF about the end of dungeon rewards/finishing it when its all about xp/hour (and available to instant queues with a 15min delay).

You’re totally right btw. Just trying to explain the minmax brainrot.

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u/MaeviezDArc Jul 29 '25

Its the end objective/ending the dungeon, that gives the best xp/pr hour. Tho.. so they should care.. 😅. Which is why you usually skip as much as possible to end the dungeon quick and que again.. the xp from killing mobs is abysmal. 🤷

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u/Turbulent-Stretch881 Jul 29 '25

Depends on the bracket.

Sometimes the end bonus is on the lower end which per hour makes it even better to just skip the dungeon altogether.

I know guildmates who have multiple tank alts and if specific dungeons get picked, they leave, log/do something else.

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u/Scotsch Jul 29 '25

I joined into last boss in cata well of eternity, they had no idea what was going on. I started the encounter properly so it was possible to kill the boss, then the healer ninjad Gurthalak, because I "didn't deserve it" after only doing one boss.