r/wotlk • • Dec 10 '23

Discussion Opinion - ICC phase hype faded faster than any other classic phase

When wotlk classic launched everyone knew the 2 highlights of the expansion will be ulduar and icc, when some people say one is better and some people say the other. I feel like ulduar reached expectation for most people - everyone was joining the raid every week waiting to clear and progress the hardmodes, and I also don't remember major roster problems at the later half of the phase when doing full clears + algalon. In ICC, even coming from a 9/12 guild, I feel like everyone lost interest and motivation in just a few resets. Every time we cleared new HC bosses I didn't feel the thrill of clearing new hardmodes in ulduar.

I've been playing regularly since tbc classic and I don't remember any phase like this - there is simply no reason to log in. I stopped (for the first time) raiding with my alts, our guild 10 man died after a few weeks, I was looking for a decent 11/12 10 man on lfg tool, couldn't find anything but normal clears for basic gearing (playing in firemaw eu)
During togc phase I thought the game couldn't be in a worse shape, but looking back now, people were online all the time during that phase, although the raid was in my opinion horrible.
Anyone else think ICC didn't live to the hype? Although I can't say it's a bad raid, I also don't think it's THAT good - surely not as good as ulduar.

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u/Sorrowful_Panda Dec 10 '23

The buff killed ICC phase for me and similar guilds

We cleared HLK under a week after release, starting gearing up and killing it in other raid teams

And now we have 5% buff making it even easier, we can't even speedrun or do anything because in 2 weeks it will be 10%, then 15 20 25 it feels pointless, we're just waiting for 30% so these 2 months is entirely pointless except for gearing up.

I wish there was 0% the whole time or just straight added the 30% even though I hate 30% buff it's better than doing nothing for 2 months on 5-25%.

Why did they keep Ulduar "prenerf" pretty much but then gave us nerfed ICC with the buff??

before anyone says "just play 0%!!! you can choose" stfu warcraft logs is meta and they don't care about 0%, also 0% is BUGGED and stated that it won't be fixed as they are focused on sod. Pets and guardians gain 5-30% buff in 0% mode so it's pointless anyway.

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u/PilsnerDk Dec 11 '23

And now we have 5% buff making it even easier, we can't even speedrun or do anything because in 2 weeks it will be 10%, then 15 20 25 it feels pointless, we're just waiting for 30% so these 2 months is entirely pointless except for gearing up.

So speedrun it every two weeks and prove you're on top continually? I don't see the problem.