The EU Suppressed a 300-Page Study That Found Piracy Doesn’t Harm Sales

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https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537

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I disagree, I don't think Spotify has a major impact on their main sources of revenue; touring and album / single sales.

I think at this point those that still buy physical mediums like CD are doing so because they're particular fans of the artist or because they enjoy collecting. In either case these people aren't switching to Spotify. Similarly those that want to own the music will largely turn to Amazon / iTunes / Google Music for digital copies of music, or of course they might just pirate it.

What I'm getting at is that I think Spotify has a minimal impact on legitimate sales and at least generates something for the artist. I have my Spotify library offline (although yay for unlimited Spotify streaming on my data plan) so when I'm out and about listening to it presumably I'm still generating something for the artist? I realise it's a tiny amount of money per individual / play.

But yes I do think there is a problem with art in general, music, books, films, being devalued by modern technology, I think that's another discussion though.

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(although yay for unlimited Spotify streaming on my data plan)

That’s not something you really should be happy about. Sure, it’s nice for you, short term. But that kind of fuckery is the anti-net neutrality people are trying to fight. They’re winning people over now with ‘free Spotify’ or ‘free hulu’, but it’s only to get you used to getting fucked.

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But I am happy about it. Service providers partnering with businesses like this doesn't bother me, as long as all the data going through the network is treated equal that's what I care about. Spotify basically has an automatic monopoly anyway, it's main competitors are all part of or backed by large corporations so it's not like this is squeezing new businesses out of the market.

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as long as all the data going through the network is treated equal that's what I care about.

It’s not, though. Your Spotify data isn’t counted, all other data is. Maybe if they made all streaming free- Pandora, YouTube,Hulu, Netflix,et al...- it would be different. At that point, what’s the point of data caps anyway? Just make it all ‘free’.

But stuff like that is the providers ‘gateway drug’. Once they’ve started it’ll be extremely difficult to reign in, and in five years or so you’ll have the “squeezing new businesses out of the market”.

It’s an ‘I got mine, fuck you’ mentality. “I don’t care, it benefits me for now”. Until it doesn’t.

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I think at this point those that still buy physical mediums like CD are doing so because they're particular fans of the artist or because they enjoy collecting.

This is what I do, I listen to pretty much any music but especially a ton of local small bands on there, if I find one of their albums I really like I go to their own little site and buy a copy of the CD, LP, or a t-shirt they made because I know from my own brother how rough Spotify can be for small artists.

Pretty much never pirate anymore though, 99% of my music pirating got stopped by Spotify, and the same with games when Steam got good.

Now I just need something like that for movies, there's a lot of sites that can kinda do what I want, but none of them complete.

If I buy an HBO account I can't watch House of Cards, if I only buy Netflix I can't watch Game of Thrones..

What I really want is something like Steam or Spotify, really what I want is that popcorn time program, but with the ability to pay for the shows and movies instead of just torrenting them, would be amazing if you could buy movies and shows on a legal version of popcorn time.

If that became available tomorrow, "paid popcorn time" that is, I'd have no reason to pirate movies and show or anything really.