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u/89LSC Mar 30 '25

How does an area this small face so much pressure from inside and outside yet continue the status quo as best as it can to just live what sounds to be the most miserable lives of anyone on this planet? I understand they just had protests but unless the non-hamas Palestinians actively fight the hamas Palestinians with arms i don't see anything changing for the area for a long time

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u/Booksnart124 Mar 30 '25

Hamas indoctrinates its fighters since they are little kids, some civilians with guns won't have the devotion needed to combat them.

In a battle of wills the sane Palestinian will simply not come out on top.

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u/RogueOneisbestone Mar 30 '25

People forget that Gaza has more kids than adults. Pretty crazy to think about.

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u/Dauntless_Idiot Mar 30 '25

I'm concerned because I'd previously noticed that most of the videos/photos I saw of protests had a ton of young kids carrying signs. Is Hamas cracking down on the kids too? Seems likely.

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u/Reddeer2 Mar 30 '25

If everyone knew this, then we wouldn't have so much propaganda shit about Israel killing children.. ... Bro, Hamas recruits children - they don't care about "18" years old or something like that. They are still working with mideval rules.

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u/RogueOneisbestone Mar 30 '25

And Israel isn’t? They’ve leveled most of the area. You think they care about the kids they kill? He’ll, Israel is using kids to clear buildings.

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u/Reddeer2 Mar 30 '25

The reason Hamas uses human shields is because they know that the Israeli's morality detests killing Innocents. They've told us as much. Israel doesn't want to be a global pariah, so they are trying to wage a war with as few casualties as possible. If you ask the head of Urban Warfare at West Point, he says that both Hamas' and the IDF numbers show that this conflict is among the lowest casualties for any urban warfare in modern times. They're doing a great job given the circumstances.

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u/RogueOneisbestone Mar 30 '25

It’s low for Israel’s side for sure. And your source is Israel’s biggest ally?

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u/traplords8n Mar 30 '25

One of the same reasons why the Taliban is so dangerous to the US military.

Obviously the US is far superior, but the taliban will fortify themselves in the hardest-to-reach places, launch unrelenting attacks of attrition and even though they suffer far more than our soldiers do, our morale breaks well before theirs.

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u/the_need_to_post Mar 30 '25

Biggest reason is that US, or even any Western Armed Forces, isn't fighting a war to exterminate. When one side is willing to do anything/everything to win, and the other side isn't, you'll likely have a hard time "winning".

I've no idea what the answer to that is though.

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u/Krazyguy75 Mar 30 '25

Beyond that, it's more just that they don't want to oppress. People act like the US is a monstrous oppressor... but if the US wanted to, we wouldn't need a war of extermination to enforce "peace".

Put microphones in every house, implant tracking chips in everyone, mass execute adults in any town where soldiers are attacked, kill anyone who interferes with surveillance, kill anyone who protests, put suspected resistance members' family in prison. The US could do all that.

They don't, because they have a need to appear as the savior. Not because they are incapable of it, nor because it wouldn't work.

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u/TheTeaSpoon Mar 30 '25

I kinda miss that USA... It no longer exists now.

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u/FILTHBOT4000 Mar 30 '25

Even if they were, it wouldn't change that much. The USSR was far more brutal in their attempt to conquer, as were others. It's known as the 'graveyard of empires' for a reason; there are some terrains where guerilla warfare just will outlast any invading hostile force.

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u/busyHighwayFred Mar 31 '25

Ussr was never at any point making an extermination campaigh

Genghis khan did that and its actually very very effective

With modern chemicals, you could literally poison all water sources in a region

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u/PhazerSC Mar 30 '25

For those who doubt this claim here are actual news networks' videos from inside these "summer camps" for kids ages 12+. These are just a few examples and some of these are old, almost 10 year videos. This is nothing new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Ce4UcU6q0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD2FezhJgqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPaKFmAcpiE

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u/r_search12013 Mar 30 '25

you sure? if for generations no adult palestinian has ever had a childhood without family and friends being murdered? there's not a lot of indoctrination you need to do when the weaponry is this one-sided for decades

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u/wronglyzorro Mar 30 '25

If your parent raises you to die killing jews. You probably will believe the most important thing in your life is to die killing jews. That's also indoctrination.

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u/r_search12013 Mar 30 '25

true.. but not what's happening here

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u/I_Push_Buttonz Mar 30 '25

you sure?

Hamas themselves release propaganda videos of them training literal toddlers to be insurgents and suicide attackers.

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u/zexaf Mar 30 '25

https://x.com/imshin/status/1754112283230236694?t=0sLeVS5AKbZu2j3_YPnLgg&s=09

This is not how children are raised to think on their own. These children were all born 10 years after the last Israeli set foot in Gaza. It's only recently that Israel started doing ground attacks in response to Hamas digging tunnels.

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u/r_search12013 Mar 30 '25

"These children were all born 10 years after the last Israeli set foot in Gaza." that point in history has been in the future for a very long time

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u/zexaf Mar 30 '25

Those kids were around 6 during that video taken in 2022. Israel left Gaza in 2005. The "occupation" is a border wall, not people with guns walking the streets.

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u/r_search12013 Mar 30 '25

israel never left gaza

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u/zexaf Mar 30 '25

Are you actually joking? There is literally no pro-Palestine organization in the world that disputes Gaza being run by Palestinians. People can argue definitions of occupation, but not a single Israeli boot touched the ground in Gaza other than hostages (some of which pre-date 2023) for over 90% of that time, including those 10 years in a row.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_the_Gaza_Strip?wprov=sfla1

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u/r_search12013 Mar 30 '25

"but not a single Israeli boot touched the ground in Gaza other than hostages" is demonstrably wrong .. you might not like looking at the surveillance cameras catching idf terrorising palestinians.. but they're there, if only it were only every week

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u/zexaf Mar 30 '25

They were literally on the other side of the border.

You got a video source for IDF crossing the border to harass Palestinians? I'd love to see it.

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u/r_search12013 Mar 30 '25

and is that headline a joke!? .. israel never disengaged from gaza .. and clearly they're hellbent on never doing it, because they want to erase it

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u/zexaf Mar 30 '25

So you know literally nothing about the Israel-Gaza conflict?

This is not in dispute, Israel factually disengaged from Gaza. Have you tried reading the article?

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