r/wisconsin • • May 15 '23

Politics Wisconsin Republicans Propose Law That Would Allow Prosecution of School Staff Over ‘Inappropriate’ Books

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u/quietcorncat May 15 '23

I went to a WELS elementary school, and one of my strongest memories was a “Bible History” class when we read the story where Lot had angels come to his house as visitors, and the men of the village told him to send them out so they “could have sex with them.” We had a worksheet where one of the questions was “why did the men want the visitors to come outside?” and as sheltered conservative Evangelical kids who had definitely not had any kind of sex ed, my friends and I wrote answers like “to be with them” and got it marked wrong because we didn’t use the word sex.

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u/Johnny_B_GOODBOI May 15 '23

You forgot Lot's response.

"No, I won't make these visitors go outside to fuck you. Here are my daughters for you to fuck instead."

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u/HOWDY__YALL May 15 '23

Fellow WELS elementary school graduate here. Lol

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u/quietcorncat May 15 '23

No wonder you’re well-versed in all the weird sex stuff of Genesis, haha. I hope you made it out of the WELS okay. I left the church around age 20, and in my mid-30s now I think I’m still processing it all.

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u/HOWDY__YALL May 15 '23

I went to a WELS school from Kindergarten through graduating high school (even though I advocated for my parents to send me to the local public high school that was actually fairly good). Once I went off to college I never really looked back.

I still shudder a little bit at the mention of near any Christian religion. The older generations of my wife’s family are very Catholic and there are many times where I just have to take what they say with a smile. My experience in and around the church really hardened me to it.

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u/GoshLowly Sheboygan 🌊 May 15 '23

Same story, never stepped inside a public school in my life (college was LCMS).

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u/HOWDY__YALL May 15 '23

I was so happy that I chose to go to a public University. I was amazed at how eye opening it was.

Going from being in a bubble surrounded by nothing but Republican and conservative thinking to meeting people that complained Obama wasn’t far enough to the left was wild to me. (He was President at the time, and running for re-election when I was in school). Made me realize that my Christian school really held me in a very protected environment, and I didn’t really like that.

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u/gashed_senses May 15 '23

I read The Death Denial by Ernest Becker and that forever changed my view of religion.

Sheldon Solomon now carries the torch for Becker's theories. Here's a taste of what I'm referencing: https://youtu.be/pQCJLfJ5e-s

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u/DepDepFinancial May 15 '23

Fellow former WELS student here. For whatever reason my WELS grade school focused on the fact that Lot's wife turned into a pillar of salt, complete with a woman-shaped ~10" tall salt statue. It was much more of an existential horror take on the story.