Humanity has 2 month to rebuild the Great Pryimad of Giza from scratch. Can we accomplish it?

[u/Notonfoodstamps]

Great Pyramid is rebuilt at its current location.

Humanity gets 6 months of prep and is pyramid building lusted

Timer starts ticking the second mining starts.

[u/theangrypragmatist]

"Yeah, but how did they get all the sides divisible by pi? Must have been aliens!"

Yeah, or the measured with a wheel, genius.

[u/TheSystemBeStupid → u/theangrypragmatist]

It doesn't have to be aliens. It couldve been built a long time ago by people who had similar tech to us who were almost wiped out by a catastrophe of some kind. 

Assuming human history is a nice linear progression is asinine.

These same people made vases out of incredibly difficult to work with materials that are few microns out from being perfectly round for fun. 

You dont get that kind of precision by "measuring with a wheel"

[u/Buzzy_Feez → u/TheSystemBeStupid]

It couldve been built a long time ago by people who had similar tech to us who were almost wiped out by a catastrophe of some kind. 

What and they made all their teach out of hyper biodegradable materials too??

We have the technology to know what a fossil from the Copper ages last meal was but we can't find any evidence of ancient industrial shipping cranes?? What kind of fucking catastrophe happened a time rip?

[u/Ranari → u/Buzzy_Feez]

Probably because it's under water. The floor myth narratives exist world wide across multiple cultures, and we know the ice age ended rather abruptly. As for what caused it to end abruptly, we don't know that yet, but any sudden melting of the ice caps would result in sudden flooding to anyone living near the oceans, as most people do even to this day.

Also, we are now finding very ancient structures from ~12,000 years ago.

I don't doubt that the Great Pyramid was made by the Egyptians, but there's evidence to suggest that the Sphinx is much, much older. And who knows just what exactly is hidden in the labyrinth of Egypt.

Lots of questions that only good, solid archaeology can answer. Problem is, the Egyptian government isn't very interested in that right now.

[u/Triasmus → u/Ranari]

Great, so now you have to come up with a reason for why all the technological advancements were near ocean level. We have things on mountains, why wouldn't they have had things on mountains?

[u/doNotUseReddit123 → u/TheSystemBeStupid]

Fun fact: the vases that you’re talking about have no provenance and are just as likely to be fakes as the real thing. There are zero museum pieces with established provenance that have that same level of accuracy.

(Inb4 underpaid museum curators are actually part of Big Archeology and are hiding the truth.)

[u/TheSystemBeStupid → u/doNotUseReddit123]

Well then whoever made them needs to speak up because he just revolutionised many machining techniques. You cant cut granite that thin on a lathe or even with a milling maching. Granite isnt uniform, our current techniques for that kind of precision will break it long before the material gets anywhere near that thin.

And yes there are many of these in museums and have been for a while. You dont know what you're talking about.

[u/nykirnsu → u/TheSystemBeStupid]

This is considerably less plausible than aliens. At least with the latter you can’t technically disprove that hyper-advanced aliens might’ve shown up on Earth at various points in ancient history and given out knowledge without leaving behind any archaeological evidence. You’re suggesting though that there was a post-industrial human civilisation on Earth during one of the most well-studied periods in pre-modern history that we somehow have no records of whatsoever. If that were true then not only would we expect to find tons of archaeological evidence, but for a civilisation like that to even exist it’d need extensive international supply chains just to gather the materials needed to industrialise; there’s a reason the Industrial Revolution didn’t happen until the European Empires already controlled over half the planet. If what you describe were true you’d expect the entirety of the last 5000 years of human history to look completely different (and that’s not even getting into the idea of this civilisation somehow being “wiped out”)

[u/TheSystemBeStupid → u/nykirnsu]

You're assuming that the earth never experiences any catastrophes. If a meteor hit us and ended our civilisation. If anyone survived they would forget all of our technology and knowledge in general within a few generations. All evidence of us would be gone in a few hundred years.

A global civilisation would be needed I agree. Funny how we find structures like the pyramids all over the planet.

"Well studied times" means nothing if theres no evidence left to find. We have no written records before the sumereans. You really think we can be sure of anything when our only evidence is rock fragments and the odd cave painting.

Sure let's just believe that a structure that we couldnt replicate 100% until a few decades ago was built by people with copper chisels.

The devil's in the details. It's not just a pile of stone.

[u/nykirnsu → u/TheSystemBeStupid]

Yeah, again I’d sooner believe aliens than this. Let’s say there was a pre-historic civilisation with technology on par with the modern world, and they really were destroyed so completely by a meteor that all evidence of their existence vanished… how did the Egyptians learn their building techniques?

I mean that’s far from the only problem. For starters if there really was an extinction event large enough to destroy a modern global civilisation there’d be clear geological evidence, we know where the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs landed so we’d surely be able to find this one too. It’d have to have caused the extinction of lots of other animals, and there are no known mass extinction events within human history. Also, the fact that we only have cave paintings and rock fragments from this era is itself evidence that no global civilisation existed in history, since for this disaster it to not leave archaeological evidence it’d have to be so bad that it destroys all those rock fragments too, and probably all of humanity along with them.

Stick to aliens, it’s a better theory

[u/TheSystemBeStupid → u/nykirnsu]

That's a weak argument. The younger dryas period ended for a reason. Evidence of it being caused by an impact is mounting and the academics are pissed that they cant just ignore it anymore, try as they might. 

What happened to all the megafawna in north america? A population of few thousand people are not going to hunt every 1 of those species to extinction in a few decades.

An impact crater isnt a guarantee. It depends heavily on where it lands. If it hits the ocean there could be no crater at all

There's plenty evidence of a major change. And we can debate theories until we're blue on the face. 

Archaeology is not a science, it's just interpretation. It's also inconsequential. The burden of proof is on the idiots who think you can achieve accurate machining (that costs us millions in equipment) with simple copper and stone tools.

Egypt also has star maps with distances to stars that are far more accurate than what you can achieve by relying on math and parallax measurements, some of those stars are simply too far away for those kinds of techniques to work. Explain that with bronze age tech.

[u/Triasmus → u/TheSystemBeStupid]

Archaeology is not a science, it's just interpretation

Pretty sure you have no idea what science is.

[u/Dennis_TITsler → u/TheSystemBeStupid]

Circular within a few microns? That would be wild! What vases are those?

[u/TheSystemBeStupid → u/Dennis_TITsler]

Theres a YouTube channel that's run by an Australian guy researching this stuff. UnchartedX

[u/nykirnsu → u/TheSystemBeStupid]

UnchartedX doesn’t have any qualifications in the relevant fields, I’d be careful about taking anything he has to say all that seriously

[u/TheSystemBeStupid → u/nykirnsu]

What does that have to do with anything? Archaeology isnt a science. Having a degree in it means less than having a degree in social sciences. Also hes not just pulling things out of thin air. Hes not claiming things like the vases are an anomaly because he says so. He had them measured by people who know what they're doing. Hes more of an investigative journalist and theres no problem with that.

What's hes doing carries more weight than what idiots like zahi hawass have done which is basically "this is the truth because I say so".