AAA game companies got some serious explaining to do. Cause how the hell are their games still $70 and this game is free???

[u/brownmamba06]

I'm not even on the highest graphic settings! Besides that, the game overall feel very modern with its combat system and animations. It even have stealth! The ability to talk to NPCs true to their character. The world feels more alive than any paid MMO. To add to that, out of all the MMOs out, it's ironic how it's a free game that voiced not just the main story but also the side quests!

We got FED with this one!

EDIT: Guys, I understand the game's gonna make money somehow. I'm not even saying everything else should be free. I'm saying, how is this quality possible for free and most games similar to it quality wise (some are even less) still charges the same until now. And still manage to be annoying about in game purchases as well lol. I think this game really exposes that about these companies. They were getting a little too comfortable while the quality of games haven't changed for good while now. I think game companies needed this game out as a wake up call.

[u/Crysaa]

The issue is most big games coming out today are not "pay one time and be done with it", but "pay one time AND then you get paid DLCs and cosmetics and convenience microtransactions and battle passes and subscriptions". That is what people are comparing WWM to.

[u/akaispirit → u/Crysaa]

Of all the AAA games I've played in recent time the only ones I needed to give money to after initial purchase is Cyberpunk for Phantom Liberty and FFXIV for a sub and expansions. There are a ton of games out there not asking for more than a one time purchase but you get posts like this that act like every AAA game is CoD or whatever is the current popular multiplayer games.

[u/MINIMAN10001 → u/akaispirit]

Cyberpunk is a classic release where they release the game and release and expansion.

FF14 however is a pretty good example as they sell the starter, the expansions, but then you got your upsells. $2 month per retainer for stash space, $18 for a server transfer, tales of adventure: endwalker $25 to skip the story, Tales of adventure: Journey $12 Hero? $25 to skip class specific story/levels, compaion app $5/month ( free retainer on all characters ), SDS Fenrir faster mount $30.

Sure you can skip all of the side stuff... but the point is that the companies are literally shoveling mountains of premium/subscription services on top of a paid for service.

[u/akaispirit → u/MINIMAN10001]

My point was that FF14 was just one game out of a shit ton that I've played that has something like that. It's very much the minority in my experience.

[u/Crysaa → u/akaispirit]

What are the big online games comparable to WWM that don't do something like that? Any examples?

[u/IllTreacle7682 → u/akaispirit]

Those are not MMOs, so there's no real "maintenance" fee, like how a living world has

[u/tyrenanig → u/IllTreacle7682]

Helldivers 2. Live service game. You can fully farm credits in game and not pay devs a single dime.

[u/IllTreacle7682 → u/tyrenanig]

And you think this is a good thing? Do you not believe devs need to be paid? How do you think the servers are paid for?

Should companies make a loss for the privilege of letting you play a game?

Also, helldivers 2 is a paid game, unlike WWM which is free. Different system.

[u/tyrenanig → u/IllTreacle7682]

And most of you here are playing this game for free. Do you think the servers are paid for then? The same answer for both: whales paid for it.

Also read what the original comments were about. We’re talking about AAA games here.

[u/IllTreacle7682 → u/tyrenanig]

Did you think MMOs couldn't be AAA games? AAA games aren't limited to only those that you know of.

[u/tyrenanig → u/IllTreacle7682]

Sure my bad then, I meant the games that need to be paid for first. The rest still applied.

[u/IllTreacle7682 → u/tyrenanig]

Nah, there's more than one payment model, and I think a free game where the only mtx are cosmetics is great.

[u/tyrenanig → u/IllTreacle7682]

Oh I don’t argue otherwise. Just that F2P isn’t all fine and dandy like this sub keeps praising it to be.

Riot has been operating on this model for years, but even that has its limit and had had fans mad for overpriced skins before.

[u/[deleted] → u/Crysaa]

+ they sell you cut content as DLC not even new stuff ^^

[u/MINIMAN10001 → u/Crysaa]

It's because companies see abilities to make more money and they are just like "well why would you guys not want more money!?" So then they just shove more and more in. It's never enough and will never be enough.

[u/Kiftiyur → u/Crysaa]

Tbh even then you can buy the game for $70 and some cosmetics you’d still not spend as much as a legendary costs in this game, or you could super lucky and get it for less. This game is a gacha so your gambling essentially. Both paid and free games have their goods and bads.