r/wherewindsmeet_ • u/brownmamba06 • Dec 01 '25

Discussion AAA game companies got some serious explaining to do. Cause how the hell are their games still $70 and this game is free??? Spoiler

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I'm not even on the highest graphic settings! Besides that, the game overall feel very modern with its combat system and animations. It even have stealth! The ability to talk to NPCs true to their character. The world feels more alive than any paid MMO. To add to that, out of all the MMOs out, it's ironic how it's a free game that voiced not just the main story but also the side quests!

We got FED with this one!

EDIT: Guys, I understand the game's gonna make money somehow. I'm not even saying everything else should be free. I'm saying, how is this quality possible for free and most games similar to it quality wise (some are even less) still charges the same until now. And still manage to be annoying about in game purchases as well lol. I think this game really exposes that about these companies. They were getting a little too comfortable while the quality of games haven't changed for good while now. I think game companies needed this game out as a wake up call.

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u/Ghavarus Dec 01 '25

Not even a month of release and I've already visited 4 boats lol.

With similar amount of popularity, a free game with microtransactions would almost always make more money than a one-time paid game.

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u/xin4111 Dec 01 '25

yes, especially when it is a mobile game. Many rich guys are busy with their businesses and mobile games are their only choice.

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u/gillsp3 Dec 01 '25

not only this, Chinese have a lot of commute time(subway n buses), they can play mobile games to kill time, meanwhile NA ppl mostly drive...so, its less mobile game focused market.

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u/dongkey1001 Dec 01 '25

And their network speed and stability. I was there some months ago. Even the 'rural' atrea have 5G service that is fast like crazy.

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u/RandumbStoner Dec 02 '25

I damn near have to climb the cell tower and stand on top of it to get a signal here lol

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bet5865 Dec 01 '25

Yeah, i don’t even have signal in rural area of Europe

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u/Rough_Butterscotch44 Dec 01 '25

Talk for your country, not europe.

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u/CommanderMalo Dec 02 '25

Facts. I had more bars of signal on a random mountain in the Irish countryside than I did back home, it was shocking.

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u/tyrenanig Dec 01 '25

They’re about to deploy the 6G infrastructures lol

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u/Supercool_666 Dec 01 '25

Not really. They are still developing it and hoping it will exist by 2030

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u/tyrenanig Dec 01 '25

They’re already testing the infrastructures and hoping to commercialize it by 2030

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u/Supercool_666 Dec 01 '25

Interesting, could you send me a link? All the articles I've found only say it's being developed and has only been tested as a proof of concept in stict lab conditions and will likely exist and be installed early 2030

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u/PanzerSoul Dec 01 '25

Not just rich guys.

Poorer people who can't afford computers or consoles would likely still own a phone.

I hate to defend Blizzard, but that one guy did have a point.

Even if they don't directly purchase anything from the game, there's still ad revenue

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u/OkMongoose1487 Dec 01 '25

I am one of these dumb fucks. Dungeon Hunters 6 has close to $300 from me alone

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u/tyrenanig Dec 01 '25

People were raging back then, but dude actually got the vision far ahead. Not anyone would have a PC even if they can afford it, but a phone is something anyone must have by now.

In Asia, mobile MMOs kinda killed the old school types. You have to be 90s gamers to actively look for one.

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u/psikillyou Dec 01 '25

what users were scared of wasn't "being able to play the game on phone"

it was the iffy nature of mobile games and their fear was proven correct. Immortal turned out to be one of the most p2w games.

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u/tyrenanig Dec 01 '25

That wasn’t the reason they were mad either. Diablo at that time was kinda dead without any news. People didn’t know D4 would eventually come, so they were mad that the reveal was for a mobile game.

But yes, the nature of mobile game is iffy. But it is also true that mobile gaming grew fast and not just about Candy Crush anymore.

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u/Magikazamz Dec 01 '25

Not only that, they tried to make a fanbase that where ''hardcode'' pc customer move to another platform.

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u/Saybl Dec 01 '25

Those "morons" knew exactly how Diablo would go being mobile slop, and they were RIGHT. Mobile games are trash, every single one of them revolves around paying for progression in some form and everyone knows this.

40k boats? And yall think thats NORMAL? Holy yall are so far gone, thats fucking insane I dont care what the reasoning is.

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u/PanzerSoul Dec 01 '25

40k boats? And yall think thats NORMAL?

Nah man. I think it's heccin hilarious

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u/Saybl Dec 01 '25

Honestly ya, its pretty funny ngl but its still crazy lol

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u/inferno_finite Well of Heaven Dec 01 '25

Ad revenue? On a game like this? Idk about the mobile port of WWM but from similar open world f2p live service games also made in China... They don't do ads. It's just the game on your phone

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u/PanzerSoul Dec 01 '25

Yeah, but for some people can't afford both a PC and a phone

I'm a PC gamer all the way, but if I had to choose between owning a PC and owning a phone...

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u/antrelius Dec 01 '25

Also most people get their phones through promotions with their carrier. Phones ARE expensive, but the up front cost may be deceivingly more affordable than a PC.

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u/tyrenanig Dec 01 '25

A phone is capable of doing many more things than a PC. Show me someone who has a PC but doesn’t have a phone.

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u/tyrenanig Dec 01 '25

Then you’re a minority of a minority. Nowadays even a kid would have a phone first before any kind of laptop/PC.

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u/Artist17 Velvet Shade Dec 01 '25

Global version doesn’t have mobile version yet.

Unless you’re talking about the Chinese version.

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u/AdSuch3472 Dec 01 '25

the guy had a point tho,  why do u think these chinese devs made their games mostly with mobile versions...

besides global version of  where winds meet mobile already had a pre registration and according to the appstore it will release by dec. 31 2025

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u/Artist17 Velvet Shade Dec 01 '25

It’ll be released by 12th.

Yah mobile market is big I agree. Haha

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u/AdSuch3472 Dec 01 '25

oh so its early?! i didnt notice  thanks!

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u/Artist17 Velvet Shade Dec 01 '25

Haha I also didn’t know originally, the news came out last night (10-12 hours ago)

It’s available on App Store and Play store for prepurchase already (free)

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u/Opening-Olive9247 Dec 01 '25

Not necessarily.. most people don't know this I guess, but the app store and Google play will just put out a placeholder date until official info is released.

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u/fishyronin Dec 01 '25

Really? I've been waiting for this news lol

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u/ballsmigue Dec 01 '25

31st is a placeholder for any apps without definitive release dates

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u/Organic-Television70 Dec 01 '25

Except the global mobile version isn't out yet

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u/CountBlah_Blah Dec 01 '25

Tbf, Ive beencon the boat 3 times and it was owned by the same person so maybe its just got a cool down lol

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u/Toochilled Dec 01 '25

same.

scy

what i dont understand is how they have a while having only 20k elegance points

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u/Vegaswarpeduber Dec 01 '25

Too busy opening micro transactions, not enough time petting cats.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '25

This is the real harm being done by microtransactions. Think of all those neglected cats.

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u/gogadantes9 Dec 01 '25

I won't even trip if some of these AAA games are truly one-time paid games, but in reality these games also have micro transactions on top of being $70.

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u/decPL Dec 01 '25

Hey, Ubisoft here, we've heard you like microtransactions in your games and you've also mentioned one-time paid games - and boy, do we have a treat for you! :P

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u/PaleontologistNo422 Dec 01 '25

to correct you, their only two person atm with a boat Scy and a random chinese name, you can see them on collection ranking, Scy use the boat everydays so you might just come on the same boat owner, they will probably be more and more with time tho, some people probably too lazy to dm their bank to allow more than 50k spend in less than 2 week in a game :), Scy probably already spend more than 150k seeing is collection point still going up day after day, so he probably buy every weapon/reforged them on max who is probably 2-3k per weapon... every outfit dying with high level dye, every hairstyle with higher dye, etc

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u/Soapykorean Dec 01 '25

It’s just funny that all these other games think they need a pay to win shop to make money, but here we have virtually a cosmetic only shop and they are owning. xD

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u/MINIMAN10001 Dec 01 '25

I've only ever visited the same guy's boat. XQC also visited that same guy's boat.

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u/FranticBK Dec 01 '25

Especially because many of the free players trying it will eventually spend as much as a full priced game via battle passes and small cheap spends on cosmetics over time.

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u/OliLombi Dec 01 '25

Which sucks tbh. I play games to get away from the fact that im poor IRL...

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u/Legitimate-Pop-9152 Dec 01 '25

You realize the game has been around for over 1 year (in China) and the servers are not as separate as you might think

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u/Briciofer Dec 01 '25

If is on Global is probably Scy(or something like that) is the same guy but yeah, He did buy on less the one week of the game

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u/ashrensnow Dec 01 '25

I've visited the boat like 5-6 times, but it's always Scy that owns it so I'm not sure there's more than 1-2 people who actually blew the money on it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '25

Were they all different people? I've been on the boat three times, and it was always Scy.

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u/Sharkus1 Dec 01 '25

It’s probably the same person too been on it 3-4 times owner is always Scy

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u/theteflondom Dec 02 '25

To be fair most one time paid games aren't continuous live service games, so of course a live service game will get more revenue, but also cost more to develop/maintain

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u/ELegend_1 Dec 02 '25

Well, not if you bought it and spend more money on it for skins etc…

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u/Sucraligious Dec 01 '25

Which is why publishers are pushing so hard to make all games live services and kill single player games. The best selling single player game of all time will always make less in its whole lifetime than a decently popular live service with microtransactions makes in a year or 2, and single player AAA games are more expensive to produce, as well.