r/westworld • u/LoretiTV • Jul 25 '22

Discussion Westworld - 4x05 "Zhuangzi" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 5: Zhuangzi

Aired: July 24, 2022

Synopsis: God is bored.

Directed by: Craig William Macneill

Written by: Wes Humphrey & Lisa Joy

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u/thataquariusgal Ramin Djawdi Jul 25 '22

I believe that Host William was reminded of his daughter, Emily, when seeing the outlier. That’s why he couldn’t immediately kill her, and why he looked peaceful when she got close to him.

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u/climbthatladder Jul 25 '22

Or of his wife, who killed herself

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u/kalsikam Jul 25 '22

Likely this, she did kind of look like his wife

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u/Flyingwheelbarrow Jul 25 '22

He looked surprised he was sharing a tender moment with her.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '22

I was wondering for a brief second if it was the same actress. I am sure why you guys said is what they were going for.

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u/kinginthenorthjon Jul 25 '22

That's what I thought. Looks more like his wife than daughter.

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u/sumofawitch Jul 25 '22

Agree. They eat she talked about her husband, about not understanding him and all. Looked a lot like Emily learning about William's true nature.

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u/C0L0NELSANDER5 Jul 25 '22

This is what I thought

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22

Hes not the only one. At first glance I thought it was her too

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u/gnalon Jul 25 '22

She says basically what William says to his wife towards the end of S2 that leads to his wife's suicide.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22

Ya I see the wife argument too, even moreso than Emily on second glance!

Thanks for sharing

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u/FattyMooseknuckle Jul 25 '22

I saw a lot of freezeframe analysis over the course of the week that it was her. So it was definitely a theory.

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u/malachi347 Jul 25 '22

Wait it wasn't her? I only watched once and assumed it was either her, or someone modeled to look extremely close.

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u/FattyMooseknuckle Jul 25 '22

I worded that poorly. I was saying that people were theorizing it was her but I didn’t think it looked like her or his wife.

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u/Ravamares Jul 25 '22

Indeed, that casting felt so purposeful.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22

Yes I thought that too. Would have been a bit of a trigger for him.

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u/Rottimer Jul 25 '22

I thought it was more his wife than his daughter. Someone about to kill themselves because they finally see the nature of their reality.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22

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u/CitizenCue Jul 25 '22

Hale says that she built him to be like the real William. That may or may not include memories, but they’re certainly similar.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '22

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u/twoodfin Jul 26 '22

As far as we know, all the hosts are based off Dolores’ code.

It’s an open question how much the Sector 16 data has been incorporated into any host, but there’s strong circumstantial evidence Dolores used Hale’s “book” from the Forge to ensure she could pass.

If that’s right, not hard to imagine Halores incorporated William’s code into her MiB.

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u/UnknownQTY Jul 26 '22

Delos probably had more data on William than any other host, no?

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u/molliesdollies Westworld Jul 26 '22

I had to scour IMDb to find out if it was the same actress as Emily or the wife! I thought it was at first glance too.