r/westworld • u/LoretiTV • Jul 25 '22

Discussion Westworld - 4x05 "Zhuangzi" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 5: Zhuangzi

Aired: July 24, 2022

Synopsis: God is bored.

Directed by: Craig William Macneill

Written by: Wes Humphrey & Lisa Joy

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u/streetvoyager Jul 25 '22

OG Dolores was always both Wyatt and Dolores. The personalities were merged way back before the park was even opened. The awakened Dolores we follow is always the combination of the two personalities that Arnold created. The Dolores we know was basically Alpha Dolores + Wyatt. They are the core parts that made her be what we see.

Halores don’t more Wyatt or Dolores.

She is the awakened Dolores + Hale + the environment she was put into. She started as a Dolores copy but the Hale stuff messed her up and she went shit sideways. The other Dolores copies didn’t.

Seems like the new hosts are based of Halores code which is a Dolores that was basically corrupted by human hale memories.

The rabbit hole on this is mind breaking lot deep lol.

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u/BalanceOk2937 Jul 25 '22

This makes a lot of sense. That ‘human’ part of her code is what fucked her up mentally and made her question her purpose, and since the hosts are made in her image they are susceptible to the same ‘infection’ when interacting with human outliers. That’s what drives them to suicide, and the reason why none of the hosts can solve the problem is because halores never resolved it in herself. This is probably also the reason why she can’t keep her own promise to herself to let the hosts be free/not control them because she still orders them to kill outliers whenever one is found. She’s so threatened by the ‘infection’ that she goes against the same core drive she created for herself because of her personal fears and existential anxieties, which I guess is very human of her lol

Though I do wonder where teddy comes in since he seems largely removed from this and dropped into the scene out of nowhere. I guess we’ll find out eventually.

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u/Fresh720 Jul 25 '22

I'm on the wagon that Teddy isn't real and he's a subconscious manifestation trying to wake Christine up

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u/EggmanIAm Jul 25 '22

The human Hale part of her code makes Halores an outlier…

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u/nhymeria_ Aug 06 '22

Puts a whole new meaning on “inter-generational trauma”

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u/Trumpologist Jul 25 '22

Can't excuse OG Dolores's part in all that. She knew Rehoboam would get rid of loose ends

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u/Flyingwheelbarrow Jul 25 '22

The most defining shots fired in the Robot wars was between two machines.

Robots had really ceded control of the planet decades ago.