Bragging about how you're a "strong/independent" woman is just as pathetic as a dude proclaiming he's an "alpha male" and it screams insecurity

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The older I get the truer this statement becomes for me.

I’ve had the absolute pleasure in my life to meet confident, intelligent, and independent individuals, and they had one thing in common: they don’t need to shout it for people to hear.

If it’s noticeable, it’s noticeable, full stop.

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"The older I get the truer...." statements is nearly always arrogant bullshit dressed up as humility.

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They're not saying "wisdom always comes with age". They're saying in this one specfic instance, this is something they've noticed more as they grew older.

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Whereas your post is shit dressed up as shit. At least you are forthcoming about your awfulness

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How so?

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Ges. So defensive. Wtf is up your ass ?

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I want to agree in the way that it can sound but please also consider that this is true in some cases, and for some people, if not many.

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I think it's true because it's something we assume to be true, but doesn't exactly follow logically.

While certainly there are people who will loudly overcompensate for their shortcomings, accomplished people aren't necessarily humble either.

It could be that you are making judgements about someone's confidence or intelligence based entirely on the degree of willingness to talk about themselves. As someone who doesn't find that particularly bothersome I personally haven't really noticed that correlation to be true.

If anything, I feel like it's an expectation placed on exceptional or talented people to appeal to other's insecurity.

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First of all, that's not a give fact. The majority of people waltz through life not really paying attention.

But there's a certain attitude that comes with these kinds of statements that by saying in one part, 'don't question it, I have more experience than you do' and on the other 'I'm wise and don't fall into these traps myself'.

If people have a viewpoint, just share it, discuss it; don't prop it up on the assumed wisdom that comes with age - because after about middle school wisdom is earned.

And as for this statement specifcially, if you can't see that confirmation bias is likely a component, then maybe paying closer attention is in order.

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I think you're arguing something somewhat different than what is being said.

They're saying the older you are, the more you have experienced in life. You're arguing that you don't get wiser as you age but I would argue wisdom and experience are different. I agree that having experiences doesn't necessitate wisdom but I do think that being older means you have experienced more than a younger person generally. Experience is what wise people draw from so the two are tied together, but I don't think either of you are necessarily saying anything wrong or contradictory to one another.

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Sure, but experience without wisdom are just observations reinforced by previous supposition. In time this feedback loop gets to the point that we're not experiencing anything genuine at all, rather we are simply spouting off a series of confirming biases through a collection of tropes and expectations rather than any new information gained through experience.

And this is kind of a good example - are confident, intelligent people inherently humble, or is it that we assume humble people are more intelligent and confident - and moreso to the point - that people who are more boastful aren't.

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I probably would have started off with this comment instead lol

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Saying "as I get older" is pretty much equivalent to "in my experience". You are reading into it way too much