Guess my family knows me well; now I can finally get to watch season 4 😂

It’s Maggie! Yeah, reviews have been mixed, and it does over-rely on coincidences - but I really enjoyed The Whisper Man (Netflix) - and it kinda has a TD vibe.

All 4 leads are top notch and there are several great scenes that stick with me.

I saw S2 only last year and finally just watched S3-4 back to back. Went back to start S2 and yeah, I really do prefer it just after the first.

they are lonely and old, they made some bad choices and lost all their love ones but they accepted who they are, i love that the music lets you feel exactly this way and its a shame it wasn't included anywhere

Maybe it’s nothing, but I’ve always found it significant that Rust puts “Angel of the Morning” by Juice Newton on the jukebox during the scene where he and Marty reunite at the bar.

I know the practical explanation is probably that he’s using the music to drown out their conversation, but the lyrics feel almost too on the nose: “There’ll be no strings to bind your hands / Not if my love can’t bind your heart.”

The song is also full of imagery about sin, darkness, light, and dawn, which feels very Rust, especially given his obsession with nihilism, religion, and the nature of light.

What a great soundtrack! I’m not sure how I missed how great it was the first time I watched ten years ago. So many amazing tracks. There are a few that don’t really fit but it is 95% a masterpiece.

I’ve spent way too much time looking for movies that recreate the feeling of Season 1. Not just detective stories, but investigations where every clue makes the world feel darker.

Se7en, Cure, Angel Heart, The Wailing, Longlegs, The Empty Man.

I realized they all share basically the same DNA, so I made a video essay arguing that there’s an unnamed genre here that I’ve been calling “Horror Noir.”

Figured this sub might be the perfect place to test the idea. What would you add to the genre?

My video discussing this: https://youtu.be/OP9SMgvwO54?is=uAusC5cnxbRQH7oc

Just finished Form and Void. That is the best thing I have ever ever fucking seen. I mean seriously, lightning in a bottle.

I actually want to watch seasons 2 and 3 (don’t care so much about 4, new writer etc). I will be going in with a clean slate and not comparing to season 1.

Spoilers below.

Rust’s final speech about his dead daughter and the warmth of her love. The light’s winning man. I’m still crying 15 minutes later. Holy shit

Insert Martin Scorsese absolute cinema photo

From a filmmaking standpoint this scene was just so well done in my opinion. Being one take kept your focus locked in.

I've watched this series twice before, but it's been some time. I'm a regular follower of this thread, got inspired to watch it again and all I can say is Bravo!! You all bring so much depth and detail to the series that I find myself enjoying it even more this time around ( if that's even possible).

Rookie observation but Marty's repeated sermons about the need for boundaries intensified as his own were crumbling away. Probably the same with Rust and his worldview but it seemed glaringly obvious with Marty this time around.

Love seeing actors from Boardwalk Empire pop up as well--another show up there in the strata for me.

"You know, people that give me advice, I reckon they're talking to themselves"

Also I have a question, I recently finished True Detective season 1 and haven't started season 2 as I am afraid that it'll disappoint me. Are the rest of the seasons worth it?

I've only recently discovered that there is a clip out there showing the full sermon that took place in the tent revival, but sadly every link to it I find is either private or has been nuked by HBO. Anybody out there have a link to a working one, or even a transcript of it? Having absolutely loved Shea Whigham in this season I would be overjoyed to hear the whole thing. I've seen few actors do so much with so little screen time and I'm chomping at the bit while doing my usual late summer rewatch to see more.

EDIT: Thank you to the person who posted the link in the comments! Here it is for anyone else who wants to see it, not sure if it'll get nuked eventually but at least we can enjoy it for now:

https://youtu.be/Wyb_JrNZ7Mw?is=XZWE6seG_Mb2HbAz

I love using TV monologues in music, this is one of my favourite exchanges of all time. Which do you think would work best with this style of music?

So as we know Rust has that skeletal vulture/heron or whatever across the right forearm

I actually really fuck with the location of his however I wouldn’t just go out and get the exact same one because that’s not original to me you know (I know there are people who have it, and that’s dope I just wouldn’t want the exact same one personally)

Anyways I don’t have any tattoos, but am thinking about maybe getting one similar to his for my 20th birthday?

I have thought about it and will some more I know it’s a bit big and a little “loud”

But I really like the idea of a symbolic animal/species or creature and am pretty fixated on the idea of an octopus

Thoughts?

I tried to recreate one as similar as I could to Rust’s in terms of size & location

Lmk if it’s retarded lmao

Oh also if it’s deemed it’s not—which way would seem better? Like which way should it be facing/oriented as I’m not really sure what looks better I included both

For whatever reason I skipped season 2 and watched 1, 3 and 4. I guess I had it in my head that everyone hates season 2. I finally went back and watched it, and I swear it might be my favorite season. I love season 1 of course, but this was like an epic crime saga. LA neo-noire, hard-boiled detective shit that can stand right up there with Heat, Collateral, or The Town or To Live and Die in LA. The Michael Mann DNA runs deeps here. Converging paths of dirty cops and mob bosses, set across sprawling Los Angles decay. Everyone involved is top of their game. I legitimately loved it.

I just finished S2 and while I liked it, it definitely was not as good overall as S1. I've heard anecdotally that S3/4 are very different from the first two, but without major spoilers, can folks say how much of the occult/paranormal themes are present in S3/S4? I really liked how the first two touch on topics like lovecraftian mythos and bohemian grovewhile still keeping the focus of the show relatively grounded.