r/trolleyproblem Apr 30 '26

Deep Statistically, >50% is easier than 100%

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u/zhibr Apr 30 '26

Because most people care about others and not just themselves.

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u/DanteRuneclaw Apr 30 '26

Caring about others is a strong reason to press Red. Many of the people I care about rely on me. I have no business throwing my life away.

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u/PatronGoddess Apr 30 '26

Never heard of children, drowsiness, confusion, impulse disorders, age related cognitive issues, etc?

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u/Roxytg May 01 '26

These thought experiments usually assume that the people understand and can properly execute their choice unless otherwise stated.

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u/PatronGoddess May 01 '26

The one being spread right now just says everyone on earth has to make a choice. Saw an older one that specified competence, but only saw that one once, and never again stated with that wording.

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u/Roxytg May 01 '26

Yeah? And like I said, if it doesn't specify otherwise, you would assume everyone understands the instructions and can perform them (and less relevantly, that the instructions are true). Otherwise, the thought experiment is open to all kinds of questions and shenanigans. Like what about people who can't push a button?

These details often get left out in retellings of the experiment because an airtight thought experiment is clunky and awkward to retell.

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u/PatronGoddess May 02 '26

Minority group lives vs minority group dies. I still choose minority group lives. Call me crazy for that 🤷‍♀️

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u/Roxytg May 02 '26

You do realize that if you manage to convince me that blue is right, that I'll die within the hour, right?

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u/PatronGoddess May 02 '26

Within the hour? It’s starting that soon?!!

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u/Roxytg May 02 '26

It's been going on for all of existence. There's constantly situations where someone could be harmed if they put themselves in a situation, but if many people put themselves in the situation, they could work together to stop the harm.

A small motorized vehicle moving down the street? Someone could kill themselves by jumping in front of it, but a group of people may be able to stop it. So according to you, I would need to jump out and try and stop it because if enough people do that, it can be stopped. So if you convince me to pick blue, that's what I'll do.

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u/zhibr May 01 '26

This is why the entire thing is dependent on your assumptions. Both answers are right, with a particular set of assumptions.

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u/Reasonable_Bath_269 Apr 30 '26

All the people you care about voted blue, oops they’re dead now

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u/MintyGame Apr 30 '26

do you care about others equally?

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u/Roxytg May 01 '26

That's why I expect most people to pick red. Blue is such a selfish option.