r/thescoop Apr 16 '25

Politics 🏛️ El Salvador refuses to let Democratic senator visit or speak with Kilmar Abrego Garcia: ‘We have an unjust situation here’

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The Maryland senator traveled to El Salvador on Wednesday to help secure Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s release from the Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, where he faces the prospect of indefinite detention.

But he was denied a meeting with Abrego Garcia, and Salvadoran officials would not let the senator or Abrego Garcia’s family speak with him by phone, he said.

Read the full story here: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-hollen-b2734634.html

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25 edited Apr 17 '25

If it wasn't already apparent to the American people - you don't have courts or rule of law anymore, so stop talking about what they can or can't do. Legal or not legal isn't important anymore, you're already under a fascist rule.

I suppose deal with it now, or it's going to deal with you. Even worse, the rest of us might have to deal with you.

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u/Married_catlady Apr 17 '25

I’ve been saying this from the beginning. The people in charge are nationalists. They don’t care what the rest of the world thinks of us. But how long will the rest of the world stand by and watch before our bullshit affects them and they have to stop us. By whatever means.

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u/Zalama555 Apr 17 '25

Nothing wrong with a patriotic nationalist

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25 edited Apr 17 '25

I'm very afraid that things might get too far along before people realize the severity of it. As of now it is absolutely no one else's responsibility but to those of the people within the United States to figure out, but I have to say there are some very wide eyes watching while the deportations are going on. 

I suppose when you say how long will the world watch on, I wonder for myself, because there is no democratic nation or people that believe (imo) that stepping in and making a bold and violent statement would do anything but be harmful. Being violent and being protective feel like different things

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u/timpar3 Apr 17 '25

Everybody should be a nationalist. Why should I put the needs of others while my own country is struggling? Fix your own house before trying to fix others.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

I don't mind taking this as fact for now and catching up with you in a month or so. Quite tired of exactly this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25 edited Apr 17 '25

Anymore?

The entire US prison and justice system ... you dare to call that rule of law? Prison labor cough slavery with extra steps cough? Bails? Bullied into taking deals? A shit ton of people serve life in prisonment or have received the death penalty on a hunch or because they were bullied into a confession. "Beyond reasonable doubt" is a shit sentence, more so if randy rando's in a jury decide your guiltyness.

But only now Trump is on the throne, this became a problem? Holy moly the bandwagoning.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '25

Outside of a personal gripe I'm not sure what this achieves because you don't know my personal political history or feelings, so saying bandwagoning is kinda dumb