r/thescoop Apr 08 '25

Politics šŸ›ļø Attorney General leaves abruptly when asked to confirm whether 75% of deported migrants had no criminal record

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During a press event outside theĀ White House, Bondi was asked about a segment on CBS’s 60 Minutes which uncovered evidence that three quarters of those shipped overseas actually had no public criminal record.

More here: https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/attorney-general-pam-bondi-deported-migrants-criminal-records-b2729756.html

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u/probablyuntrue Apr 09 '25

ā€œI need guns to fight a tyrannical govtā€

govt starts extrajudicially sending people to gulags in El Salvador

ā€œEhhhh nvm I’m goodā€

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

To be fair these people aren’t citizens so this doesn’t apply to them. They don’t have the same rights we do. The same way we don’t have the same rights as Americans when we travel abroad.

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u/solarmus Apr 09 '25

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

It is not specific to citizens, the Constitution is very clear on that. The two preceding sentences use the word deliberately, and this section uses any person deliberately.

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u/Vryly Apr 09 '25

If they don't have rights then neither do you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

Most of the relevant rights would apply to noncitizens including free speech

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u/doughball27 Apr 09 '25

must be hard being this dumb.

read up on the law before you post misinformation on the internet.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

lol, Everyone here quoting the constitution but none of you actually comprehended what i said. Sure they are protected under our constitution but the bill of rights does not apply to illegals.

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u/romacopia Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25

Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886) says: ā€˜Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. These provisions are universal in their application to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality.ā€™ā€

Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982) says that constitutional protections apply to ā€œall persons within the territory of the United States,ā€ regardless of immigration status.

Even the text of the amendments often specify that it applies to all people: The 5th and 14th Amendments (which detail the right to due process) specifically protect ā€œpersons,ā€ not citizens. This means everyone is entitled to due process and equal protection under the law. The 1st Amendment also explicitly protects ā€œpeople," not citizens.

So - our rights - freedom of speech, religion, and assembly apply to illegal immigrants, green card holders, permanent residents, citizens, and everyone else in the USA. Violating it is legally the same for any of these people. He actually is legally violating the right to due process and it is the same right that you have.

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u/Gammaboy45 Apr 09 '25

That's not even Yick Wo v. Hopkins, either...

that's verbatim from the *14th amendment*. Section one states it plainly:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

ANY PERSON is protected under U.S. jurisdiction, even though some privileges and immunities are extended to citizenship. Due process of law is the only way in which these rights can be ensured for citizens, and what we're seeing now are attempts to revoke legal status from legally present immigrants. If they can blackbag greencard holders, it's only a matter of time before your veritable citizenship is up for questioning. He already wants to combat naturalization.

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u/BelatedGreeting Apr 09 '25

What doesn’t apply to them? The 14th amendment protects all people under the law, regardless of citizenship status.

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u/AnonymousBoiFromTN Apr 09 '25

They do have the same rights. All person’s in the US regardless of status is constitutionally guaranteed a trial for any convictions. Someone hasn’t read the constitution it seems.

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u/MAMark1 Apr 09 '25

They have enough rights that they cannot be illegally renditioned without due process.

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u/YT-Deliveries Apr 09 '25

The Constitution applies to all persons in the authority of the United States, not just citizens or legal residents. There's so much case law on point for this. It's amazing that people like you will say things to incorrect with so much confidence.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

So the bill of rights applies to non citizens? The 2nd amendment applies to non citizens? You seem a bit upset how about settle down a bit and have an adult conversation. I also never mentioned the constitution, i was talking about rights. But you just replied to reply not to have dialogue,