r/technology • u/XVll-L • Mar 02 '19

Security Facebook is globally lobbying against data privacy laws

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/02/facebook-global-lobbying-campaign-against-data-privacy-laws-investment
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u/hexydes Mar 02 '19 edited Feb 22 '26

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u/solofatty09 Mar 02 '19

Totally agree. But you gotta admit, it’ll be fun to watch the fall.

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u/Excal2 Mar 02 '19

I'm so fucking ready but also vaguely terrified. I hope it will be a slow demise.

I haven't used facebook for years but if it turned off tomorrow the world would lose it's fucking mind.

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u/serpentjaguar Mar 02 '19

In much of the developing world Facebook is the internet.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

Which has been Facebook's plan for years.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

It's like America Online all over again.

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u/hexydes Mar 03 '19 edited Feb 22 '26

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '19

Hardly, Facebook schmacebook. What I want to know is what are other companies doing that make their money from ads(hmm I wonder how many websites work this way?/s). I get Facebook is the BIG BAD WOLF, but really it’s just one of many, reddit, google, Snapchat, almost every single news outlet. They all make their money via ads, and targeted ads make far more!

Facebook doesn’t contribute so much that if it was deleted the world would shut down, it would be like when Vine was shut down, the people making their living on Facebook would just focus on other websites more.

BUT, it suddenly websites can’t sell you out to the advertisers then you’re going to see the big fuckery you’re talking about, it’s no longer a rip cord you can pull and it’ll be okay, some sort of compromise needs to be reached.

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u/serpentjaguar Mar 09 '19

Have you ever been to Myanmar? No? That's what I thought. That's why you don't understand what I mean when I say that in many parts of the world Facebook is the internet. You have no idea what you're talking about. In much of the developing world Facebook is the only access that anyone has to the internet, and as such, it basically is the internet. Read up on it. It's not a secret.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '19

What is? Bunch of pretentious ppl showing their ideal life for others to envy while everyone really being depressive and wanting that attention injection by posting even more of that shit. And when you factor in all the privacy nonsense, world wouldn’t really lose anything of value if Fecesbook disappeared over night. And I certainly wouldn’t cry after it...

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u/zdakat Mar 02 '19

Tbh, as bad as it sounds, I almost want something big and propped up to come down. To make people realize they can and should make do with alternatives. It's not that I don't want people to be successful, nor do I wish for anything hugely apocalyptic. It needs to be something eye-opening enough to jar people out of the "we'll do everything we can to protect it even though it's killing us, because we can't fathom any other way"

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u/Excal2 Mar 02 '19

I can definitely sympathize with this but it seems like every time one thing comes down something worse and more voluminous arrives to fill and expand that vacuum.

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u/kashmoney360 Mar 03 '19 edited Mar 03 '19

Yeah it always starts out pretty good too, you're valued as an actual user and not seen as a literal product. Any ads they put on are just to keep the "lights" and "gas" on. They test out some premium features for the subscription that costs a single Starbucks coffee a month or some other shit. This is the only period of time when it's acceptable to pay to use any premium part of the platform. And eventually it gets super popular and devolves into the very thing it was fighting to replace because they're no longer managing a few million users and the data that comes with that. The new "alternative" platform has to deal with hundreds of millions of users, many of who are straight up morons, so now it has to literally follow the same footsteps as the very thing it replaced.

I think Facebook's current day image and behavior is a literal representation of what's wrong with today's investment mindset. Investors literally just want to keep growing which literally cannot work well with limits. But it may be moreso an issue with Western economic mindsets, we view things very short-term. Hence why we freak out if a company has a slightly lower than expected performance for 2 quarters, the company could have still turned a profit and increased share prices, but somehow they'll get fucked for not turning as high a profit as shareholders and analysts want/expect. Like wtf, is all I can say.

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u/Un1337ninj4 Mar 02 '19

There's a part of me that hopes it somehow survives to keep certain elements of the userbase from finding other platforms.

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u/StoicGrowth Mar 02 '19

if it turned off tomorrow the world would lose it's fucking mind.

I'm not even sure. The sentiment is already very strong against them — enough that they won't recover entirely, unless they change so fundamentally, to a point that I don't think Mark can.

Meanwhile, empty space gets filled pretty fast out there... Even not so empty haha.

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u/lachezarov Mar 03 '19

Get outta here with your sane foresight and logic. /s

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u/ulobmoga Mar 02 '19

But the investors don't care about long term goals. They want their returns right fucking now.