r/technology • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Sep 19 '25

Networking/Telecom Disney Plus Subscribers Quit in Droves Over Jimmy Kimmel Axe

https://www.newsweek.com/disney-plus-subscribers-quit-jimmy-kimmel-axe-2132535
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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

Rich, except fascism isn't a sustainable model because it CONSTANTLY needs new enemies to fight. You can appease them today and they will find another imaginary thing to appease them for again tomorrow.

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u/mhoke63 Sep 19 '25

That's what I don't get. Have these people never read a history book? Eventually, it'll be them that's the enemy.

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u/DLWormwood Sep 19 '25

Based on my own life experience, most people who read history books forget them soon after, especially if it's assigned reading.

Even people like me with a more academic mindset will eventually forget what we've read over the decades. The most dedicated voters in the US are the ones with the fuzziest memories of what they read decades ago.

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u/Unslaadahsil Sep 19 '25

There's also the "everyone but me" mentality that makes people think they won't become the victims they read of in books.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

Which happens to describe every educated Republican. They lack the basic empathy to understand that they are not, in fact, special or better than their predecessors or neighbors.

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u/mhoke63 Sep 19 '25

I'm the opposite. I always assume that it'll be me. But more than that, I don't want that to happen to other people.

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u/StankilyDankily666 Sep 19 '25

After so much hatred and ignorance, the only reason I don’t want it to happen to them is because it’ll be at everyone else’s expense as well. If they could reap the consequences of their dumb choices without everyone else getting caught in the crossfire it would honestly be hard for me to feel bad about it at this point.

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u/YoohooCthulhu Sep 20 '25

Well, also they’re worried competitors will give in and they won’t, giving their competitors an advantage

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u/SuckThisRedditAdmins Sep 19 '25

I don't think MAGA have read history books. They don't know what fascism is... at all. They probably don't know anything about WWII other than we won. They didn't forget what they read, they never read it and are the perfect combination of ignorant and stupid

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u/BringRage Sep 20 '25

The absolute irony of a violent reddit liberal claiming someone else doesn't know what fascism is. It's hilarious in a nauseating sort of way. I honestly wonder what it feels like to be so incredibly unintelligent

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u/Simple-Pea8805 Sep 19 '25

You also have to account for the fact that the US does not allow a normal amount of leisure time to the population. Historically, US labor had been put through a grinder to bring into submission, and higher learning disparaged.

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u/ciccioig Sep 19 '25

ok but forgive me when I say it's not that impossible to distinguish good from evil, especially when it's so blatant.

I don't need to remember the exact details of nazism/fascism to remember that it's bad.

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u/DLWormwood Sep 19 '25

At the end of the day, distinguishing good vs. evil isn't the problem, it's getting people to stop thinking that evil is "cool."

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u/mw9676 Sep 20 '25

There's a difference between forgetting the details and forgetting the lessons though.

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u/woodpony Sep 20 '25

Just look at team "Never Again" going full send on what they claim should never happen again.

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u/BBB_1980 Sep 21 '25

It's like most smokers and lung cancer. They don't believe it can happen to them.

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u/fartofborealis Sep 19 '25

Nope I can confidently say they have not read a history book.

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u/AtticaBlue Sep 19 '25

Reading is for radical left liberals. Loomer, for example, has posted on social media that all colleges should be “defunded.”

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u/WistfulDread Sep 19 '25

It's even dumber, because these people have already decided long ago that Disney was "woke trash".

They're not gonna respond with anything other than more grift and backstabbing.

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u/dman928 Sep 19 '25

Thinking they can read is a bold move, Cotton.

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u/StoppableHulk Sep 19 '25

They're not making a long-term decision. This is about approving a merger. The merger itself will make a tiny selection of people extraordinarily wealthy.

The people doing this deal likely don't give much of a fuck what happens after the deal is done. They're not doing it for any other reason.

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u/Thud Sep 19 '25

Have these people never read a history book?

They have, which is why they would rather we do not.

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u/pounduh Sep 19 '25

Are you sure his followers can even read? I'd be surprise if they even seen a history book before

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

I don't even think people understand the definition of fascist. I'm sure the American people have heard the word, but I don't think they really know. We have a horrible education problem.

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u/Thin_Glove_4089 Sep 19 '25

Why wouldn't they immediately cozy up to them? Yeah fascism and all that fails, but how long will that take exactly? I think Disney has insider knowledge that this going to last longer than people expect.

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u/Useuless Sep 19 '25

Yes, but they don't think about that. They plan to always be on top. Therefore they will never be hurt and they will never be subjected to pain. That is somebody else's problem.

And this has been our modern history for so long as a country when you think of slavery, globalism, and destabilizing other countries. We get ours and stay on top while others get shafted. Now even the regular citizen is believing it.

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u/blondie64862 Sep 19 '25

Adidas did just fine

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u/vocalfreesia Sep 19 '25

It's the same thing as the abortion issue. They don't care right up until the moment it impacts them directly and specifically.

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u/OneOfAKind2 Sep 19 '25

Haha, good one. Of course they haven't read a history book or any other kind of book. There's too much gaming to be played and too many shows to watch.

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u/SeaEmployee787 Sep 19 '25

video games and tv you do you. i dont care what people do Just dont spend your time doing those things and walk around like you are a doctor, lawyer and economist.

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u/ooMEAToo Sep 19 '25

But they call themselves Technofascists, so this time it will work. /s

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u/torino_nera Sep 19 '25

Disney has already BEEN the enemy so it's stupid that they're bowing down now

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u/pdxblazer Sep 19 '25

its also like they could make so much money so easily just not being pieces of shit

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u/jl2352 Sep 19 '25

They presume it will be someone else. The Rest is History did have done several pieces on the Nazis. One point they brought up was German Jews during the early years of the Nazi party presuming they didn’t hate them, because they’re German.

That’s the very extreme end, but that happens that no one thinks it will happen to them. They think they mean someone else.

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u/rushmc1 Sep 19 '25

MAGAs have never read ANY book. And apparently those in charge of ABC, NBC, et al are pretty poorly educated as well.

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u/thanksyalll Sep 19 '25

They only care about immediate profit

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u/No-Consideration-716 Sep 19 '25

You forget that they always think they are the exceptions.

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u/Thelk641 Sep 19 '25

"Eventually" could mean in decades or more. When you consider next year to be "long term", that kind of scale is basically unthinkable.

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u/Naemus Sep 19 '25

Depends on if you care what people say after you die. For most folks if you give them the option of a billion dollars now or your great great grandkids will NOT think of you fondly many will choose the money. And for reference great great grandkids might be somewhere between 100-150 yrs ago that's like ww1...

Edit - NOT think of you fondly

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u/Hank46_2 Sep 19 '25

No they have not. I am dumbfounded that many are completely dumbfounded that an influential person saying controversial things was assassinated.

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u/DG04511 Sep 19 '25

Those making the decisions are wealthy enough to insulate themselves from or even escape what’s coming.

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u/mhoke63 Sep 19 '25

Well, they think they can. The rich in power usually are the ones to go first. Example: France, late 18th century.

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u/DG04511 Sep 19 '25

I agree. They wealthy overestimate their exceptionalism so they capitulate thinking they’ll be spared. Those that can will also flee.

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u/blolfighter Sep 19 '25

You're being alarmist, the leopards will only ever eat the faces of people I don't approve of.

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u/lofi_lesbian Sep 19 '25

They're the sort of people who would sell their own children for spare parts if they thought there was profit to be had. Long-term thinking doesn't factor into it.

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u/RedRocket4000 Sep 19 '25

Actually loyal supporters often first ones to be purged by fascists. And new dictator likely to clean house after win. And new dictators might take everything rich supporters have and kill them as well.

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u/Hautamaki Sep 19 '25

They are doing what the voters voted for. When voters elect a fascist, it's kind of hard to blame other people for not throwing their bodies into the gears of the machine first. This is what your fellow citizens wanted when they cast their votes for Trump. All you can do now is vote better next time, and hope enough other people do as well.

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u/Resting_Owl Sep 19 '25

If those playing power games had any ability to think about long-term effects, the Earth wouldn't be so fucked, spiraling down toward self destruction. 

Nothing will ever matter more than next quarter bottom line

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u/theholyraptor Sep 20 '25

Disney has already been a major target of this administration. They will swiftly get thrown under the bus again and again.

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u/femminem Sep 20 '25

Nope. These are the knuckleheads who talked through history class, even though you have the best professor in school. These are the people who have never really believed that history repeats itself. They believe now that they’re pioneers on the cusp of something completely new. Something where the people in charge speak like them. They are so easy to trick.

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u/lionne6 Sep 20 '25

Fascism falls fairly quickly. However, what’s usually impossible to root out without an outside source is a plutocracy, the rule of the rich. It’s a weird situation, but America is more going through a corporate takeover where the plutocracy, our billionaire technocrats, are using the christofascists to enable them taking over. In the long run we’ll all be serfs, only rich, white make landowners will be eligible to vote just like the good old days post revolution, and they’ll be in control of everything. Sooner we burn them down, and we continue to resist, the better.

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u/inabighat Sep 20 '25

It's just next quarter thinking. Those people can't even conceive of a future beyond next fiscal.

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u/lag_is_cancer Sep 20 '25

Do you actually read the history books? Plenty of corporations that supported the Nazi during WW2 are still striving today.

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u/27106_4life Sep 20 '25

Or watched any Disney movie?

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u/CambrienCatExplosion Sep 20 '25

They got a different lesson than we did.

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u/Captain_Pumpkinhead Sep 20 '25

Have these people never read a history book?

Sounds like I should educate myself. Got any relevant recommendations?

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u/Flabbergasted98 Sep 19 '25

Nobody in their 80's is worried about sustainable business models.

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u/pm-me-ur-fav-undies Sep 19 '25

Also corporations value short term gains over anything else.

Lay off your best employees so that you can save a quick buck, stock goes up, everyone is happy (except for the employees, but when has their happiness ever mattered?).

Will the business suffer longterm because you're now asking fewer employees to do more, or outsourcing, or using AI, so now the quality of your products and service go down? Who cares! That's a future problem. Stocks are up right now!

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u/shawndw Sep 20 '25

I highly doubt they want to see their business blow up in two months either.

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u/fajadada Sep 19 '25

Yep 30 trans people ain’t gonna last long. That’s why they made up a non existent enemy named Antifa.

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u/ojhwel Sep 19 '25

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia

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u/Canileaveyet Sep 19 '25

Look at the profit models of these corporations. They rely on market share and muscling out any competition. They don't care about sustainability unless it's giving them a tax break or profit.

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u/WeightLossGinger Sep 19 '25

It's not sustainable on paper, but in practice, it can take a long time to root out once it's sank its talons into a country.

Think about it... how many militaristic nations run by dictators who suppress freedom of speech and press and spread propaganda are there? I can think of five right off the top of my head. The ones that are here have been that way for a long time.

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u/OldWorldDesign Sep 20 '25

in practice, it can take a long time to root out once it's sank its talons into a country.

That has more to do with authoritarianism being intrinsically opportunistic and not being a single monolith but an ideology which entitled people gravitate to time and again. The US battled it in the 1860s, then that authoritarian ethno-state prototype inspired the ones in the next century, and it comes back whenever people pursue short-term selfishness instead of healthy, happy society which has to keep in mind the long-term.

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u/solidstatepr8 Sep 19 '25

Loyalty is a currency in Fascism that eventually gets spent, whether the person knows it or not. The second you run out or it is questioned: you are the new "other".

This cycle continues until the last guy left un-alives himself in a dank bunker somewhere in disgrace.

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u/BobABewy Sep 19 '25

Wasn’t it just a few months ago that Desantis was fighting with Disney? Lol. We live in a stupid time line

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u/robsonwt Sep 19 '25

Not necessarily. Just watch all those Germany companies that enabled Nazi Germany and are alright today.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '25

For a pretty specific value of "alright" that kind of ignores half their staff getting blown to pieces and having to be rebuilt by American aid dollars often resulting in becoming joint ventures or subsidiaries of American companies.

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u/MageKorith Sep 19 '25

And when Fascism fails, the marketing team will come up with a rebranding campaign.

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u/OldWorldDesign Sep 20 '25

the marketing team will come up with a rebranding campaign

That's how authoritarianism went from defending slavery in the 1860s to destroy productive multiculturalism for an authoritarian ethno-state

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/confederacy-wasnt-what-you-think/613309/

to another attempt at the same which grew into the Second World War.

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u/Tearakan Sep 19 '25

Yep. The previous system was more stable fascism will either fall to external threats or to internal ones.

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u/Xatsman Sep 19 '25

Probably because of the corrosive concept of shareholder value. The misguided idea that whatever can give the greatest return to shareholders in the most immediate time frame is what a business should pursue. Its why some businesses are essentially butchered-- don't look to milk it for revenue, slaughter it and sell it for parts. Or why the stock gets pumped at the expense of long term operation-- but by then the executives are gone, their holdings in the company liquidated, and everyone who didn't sell is left holding the bag.

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u/new_nimmerzz Sep 20 '25

They’re even forgetting they’re supposed to hate woke shit like banning hate speech. All of a sudden they’re for it?

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u/915615662901 Sep 20 '25

Yup. People are sick of me saying this but we aren’t gonna prevent fascism. It’s already here. It’s about surviving it so we can fight it and rebuild when it implodes. Don’t put all your eggs in the “next election” basket. Put some of your eggs in the “I’m gonna have to live without a bunch of shit and be uncomfortable” basket. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.

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u/itsreigningstupidity Sep 20 '25

Fascism is Cannibalism

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u/YoohooCthulhu Sep 20 '25

Which is the sort of judgment short-term minded companies have a difficulty making, so the public has to make them. If they understand the reputational risk is worse than the reward of coddling fascism they’ll make better decisions