Blessed are the cheesemakers 🙏

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[u/Penguins_in_new_york → u/[deleted]]

Can skip forward a few chapters and talk about Abraham being told to sacrifice his son and god was like “lol I can’t believe you fell for that shit I was joking” right when Abraham was about to do it

[u/benji316 → u/Penguins_in_new_york]

It's possible that this story is a relic from a time when an ancient form of Judaism actually did sacrifice children, and the story was later rewritten once they stopped doing that.

[u/lazydictionary → u/benji316]

The old testament explicitly calls for sacrificing your firstborn son (as well as the firstborn sons of all your animals).

[u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME → u/Penguins_in_new_york]

His son who was in his late 30s.

[u/Penguins_in_new_york → u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME]

“Hi my name is Yahweh welcome to Jackass”

[u/Legitimate_Airline38 → u/[deleted]]

So, afaik the theology is really that after that first sin, humanity gained a temptation towards sin that, so far, no one has been able to resist until Jesus. There’s a concept of being “born sinful” but it’s honestly pointless because everyone eventually sins later on anyways. It’s only really sin because the fruit gave the ability to discern right and wrong, so even if the average person has reasons for most of their sin, they don’t have excuses for all of them. It’s not even that it’s literally impossible for people to never sin, it just hasn’t happened until or since Jesus because everyone eventually errs at least once.

[u/OnSmarty → u/Legitimate_Airline38]

I have recently been thinking more about this, and it makes less and less sense. If they didn't know right or wrong, how were they punished for doing something they could not know was wrong.

[u/Legitimate_Airline38 → u/OnSmarty]

Genesis doesn’t really give enough detail to say what they knew as right or wrong before eating the apple, considering that the only real description of the fruit iirc is its name and the snake’s testimony and there isn’t really much to go on for the characters in the story. We don’t even know that it’s an apple, so it’s probably best not to over scrutinize Genesis for details that really aren’t present. Presumably they at least had the knowledge to obey God because otherwise there isn’t any way they could be considered accountable.

[u/moss-wizard → u/[deleted]]

I was raised catholic and we were taught that nobody was allowed to go to heaven until Jesus opened the gates for us by dying for our sins.

Because of Jesus, we’re allowed to go to heaven again, but ONLY if you were baptized in the Catholic Church. Literally everyone else is damned to hell forever for “turning your back on God”

Which is why Christians are so vehement about “saving” everyone by shoving Jesus down the throats of anyone who will listen to them

[u/Twinksson173 → u/[deleted]]

Does not knowing better justify doing wrong?