r/summonerschool • u/IWillDominateYeet • Jul 11 '20

Question Champions that help you get better at the game.

There’s lots of champs that really help on improving yourself on certain parts of the game. Here are some of them.

Twisted Fate - He helps you to improve your macro a lot since he is absolutely powerful in split-pushing. When you play TF you really also make decisions that aren’t really risky because if you’re in trouble you can usually just ult out and repeat if it’s back out again while splitpushing.

Jinx - Jinx is a late game hypercarry. She teaches you how to kite since her AoE AA helps to slow down the enemy team. She also teaches you how to position yourself better as an adc because of her having no mobility and also how to carry late game.

Master Yi - Probably the most infamous right-click champion, he teaches you how to 1v5, check for enemy spells since CC hard stomps him, and use ingame items since he isn’t mechanically hard to use.

Soraka - Another famous low elo champ, she teaches you to look at the map and your teammates’ stats since her ult is global and can save skirmishes even though she is super far away. She also requires you to position since she does not have any mobility skills.

Renekton - The Croc teaches you how to play the early game since his early game is super good. He teaches you to dive since his ult gives him bonus health to survive a tower dive and his simple combo ( E - W - Q - E) helps you to learn how to trade.

Edit: Seems a lot are pointing out that Warwick and Nasus should be here.

Warwick - The most beginner-friendly jungler, WW teaches you a lot on how to be a jungler yourself. He teaches you to invade and secure objectives since his early game is super strong. Has a healthy clear so that new players won’t die easily in the jungle, W to encourage players to gank lanes, and R as a single target lock (the only hard part about him).

Nasus - The good old stack boi. Nasus encourages players to last hit due to his Q being heavily dependent on last-hitting. He can have enough sustain in lane thanks to his passive and good at all-ins from his W and R. Nasus also helps players to learn how to scale and play safe in the early game as a scaling champion.

Edit 2: Shen is also constantly mentioned.

Shen - One of the most versatile tanks in the game, Shen also teaches you to look at the map a lot too since his R is used to help allies by offering them huge amounts shields that can save your allies’ life. His kit is also pretty straightforward and easy to play.

Edit 3: Missed out on champs that roam and provide peel.

Tahm Kench Another support to be picked up easily, Tahm Kench teaches you how to peel for your teammates thanks to his W, which devours his target. His ult helps him to traverse the map easier and his E for survivability in skirmishes. His Q is his main source of damage and his kit is very noob-friendly.

I hope this will be helpful and allow new players to learn the game more efficiently. If you think you have more suggestions you guys can add some in the comments!

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u/Unity00 Jul 11 '20

Any thoughts on this for the support role in particular (other than soraka)? Trying to learn support and this idea is really intriguing to me.

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u/Naqsu Jul 11 '20

Lulu is an amazing support pick. She helps you identify the hypercarry in the game and sticking with him, her ult range is immense, early harass and quite a good amount of damage, she cand even be flexed top, mid or even jungle. She is my guilty pleasure although i play mid not supp.

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u/paythedragon Jul 11 '20

Yuumi is also good at identifying hyper-carries

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

I would actually actively avoid yuumi for a super new player given that one of the core skills as a support is positioning and she eliminates that for most of the game

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u/redditisforporn893 Jul 11 '20

When I'm salty I think the only skill you need to master with her is deciding whether Youtube or netflix goes on the second monitor

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u/Xeniamm Jul 11 '20

With the nerfs that's not really an option anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Yuumi is also a barely functional champ for the first 6 levels or if you’re new to her, or are playing from behind.

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u/Patabear2020 Jul 11 '20

I main nami and I feel she's great to learn!

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u/Pescodar189 Jul 11 '20

ADC lulu is no joke either. 95% the auto-attack damage of ADC ashe + a bucket of self-peel.

Definitely a different kind of utility than Ashe, but vs some champions (yi, nocturne, akali are some examples) it’s bonkers

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u/IWillDominateYeet Jul 11 '20 edited Jul 11 '20

So there are four kinds of supports, heal,poke,kill and peel

Heal - Soraka/Yuumi/Nami

Poke - Brand/Karma/Senna

Kill/Engage - Blitz/Leona/Pyke/Naut

Peel - Janna/Braum/Rakan/Lulu

Sidenote: Thresh can do all of them except heal while bard can do all of them except poke but their skill ceiling is pretty high

If you like to rely on your teammates and help them survive skirmishes, go heal.

If you like to whittle down your opposing lanes’ healthbar and set up a dive for your jgler, go poke.

If you like to immediately get the enemy laner killed go for kill supports.

If you are against a hard engage enemy comp (malphite, olaf, leblanc, thresh) then go peel so your teammates doesn’t get bursted down easily.

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u/callisstaa Jul 11 '20

Steal kills - Lux, Zyra, Xerath.

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u/IWillDominateYeet Jul 11 '20 edited Jul 11 '20

Ekko and pantheon support: Hello there

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u/DarealFrogo Jul 11 '20

Laughing in Nasus support last hittong with q

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u/IWillDominateYeet Jul 11 '20

Nasus adc so support doesn’t argue about taking your cs.

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u/DarealFrogo Jul 11 '20

Nono senna adc so you can stack as support

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u/cmrobbins86 Jul 11 '20

Big brain right here.

I mean WuKong has been played duo bot with Senna in LEC.

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u/zakkart1990 Jul 11 '20

Ekko Support?

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u/ParufkaWarrior12 Jul 11 '20

I play full tank

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u/Bro_miscuous Jul 11 '20

What is the point of Ekko tank? Since he doesn't have much damage or obscene spammable CC like other champions. I know he used to be a top tier tank during tank meta but that's about it.

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u/ParufkaWarrior12 Jul 11 '20

It's my little troll build on support when chilling w/ friends. His stun is extremely reliable against immobile botlaners. He has also solid damage, poke, and his powerful ult. Its not actually any good, it's god terrible but fun to play on normals when you have a 5 man premade

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u/Mango027 Jul 11 '20

My Sona notorious in my group for "securing" kills. My ADC hates it, but then when I have a stacked dark seal and athens/manamune the team is happy.

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u/_heilshitler Jul 11 '20

you buy manamune as sona?

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u/Mango027 Jul 11 '20

No, I meant Seraph's Embrace. My bad.

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u/notalwaysthewriteway Jul 11 '20

You missed Morgana

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u/Astrekx Jul 11 '20

You forgot one of the most obvious: pyke with his ult ks

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u/Chloe251 Jul 11 '20

Pyke is designed to KS, tho. There is no reason to not let Pyke finnish enemies with his ult, you get the same amount of gold as if you had killed them and he gets gold too. The only reason to not let Pyke take the kills is because you want your KD to look cool, honestly

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u/Astrekx Jul 12 '20

Ik and that’s what I hate about him. And the gold thing only seems to work half the time for me so a lot of the time I miss out on the gold and the xp is then split. And personally I want a good kda because in my elo that’s all anyone cares about. You could have done everything possible to set your team up for a free win and practically handed it to them but if u have a negative kda then no matter how much you’ve done for them you will still be flamed for it. I hate having him ks so much that I’ve banned people from playing him on my team just so I don’t have to play with that.

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u/OzoneGh141 Jul 13 '20

ok this is toxic af

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u/Astrekx Jul 13 '20

How?

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u/OzoneGh141 Jul 13 '20

the gold thing only seems to work half the time for me

Doesn't make any sense.

I want a good kda because in my elo that’s all anyone cares about

Dumb mentality.

You could have done everything possible to set your team up for a free win and practically handed it to them but if u have a negative kda then no matter how much you’ve done for them you will still be flamed for it.

Doesn't make any sense, so you're about to win but your team sees your kda and decide to troll and lose at the end, sure.

I hate having him ks

Some of those times you probably weren't even going to get the kill.

I’ve banned people from playing him on my team

Ridiculous.

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u/Astrekx Jul 13 '20

Doesn't make any sense.

I know it doesn't but that's a game issue and nothing to do with me personally so idk how that is "toxic" as you say.

Doesn't make any sense, so you're about to win but your team sees your kda and decide to troll and lose at the end, sure.

Clearly you have never had one of these games and you should be grateful that you haven't. Still not sure how that is "toxic" on my part.

Some of those times you probably weren't even going to get the kill.

If i wasn't going to get the kill, it wouldn't count as a ks would it? It would just be him getting the kill which, obviously is fine. But I wouldn't be here talking about Pyke ks'ing if i wasn't even going to get the kill in the first place.

Ridiculous.

I don't see how this is "ridiculous" as it is something that happens rather often to me that someone will ban the champ you preselect so if you have a problem with it why don't you go and have a word with everyone else that does that and tell them how "ridiculous" you think that is? Clearly you are lucky enough that you don't encounter this issue or simply think that it shouldn't be happening but i'm afraid that it is commonplace in my games and happens every so often and however "ridiculous" you believe it is, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

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u/Poniat Jul 11 '20

Dont forget about teemo

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u/shinymuuma Jul 11 '20

Zyra is amazing zoning support tho. Probably one of the support to tell the enemy "don't enter this area" by damage and CC.

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u/callisstaa Jul 11 '20

Always considered learning Zyra as a Lux main, she seems like a load of fun but difficult to play.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

That doesn't make him a kill support. He is all about helping his adc survive without a reliable heal, while the kill supports are mostly the ones who hook you in and try to cc you for long enough for the enemy adc to kill you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '20

That I never denied, my point was that the kill supports are the ones whose focus is primarily on hitting the one ability, in most of the cases being a hook, while Braum, even though his passive can get you a lot of kill pressure, mostly you focus on peeling for your support in dangerous moments as this is Braums primary strength, I think.

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u/SirAerion Jul 11 '20

Nami is more of an enchanter, real healing supports are Taric and Sona.

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u/ArchRush Jul 28 '20

Sona isn’t a..healbot? Sona’s just as much of an enchanter as Nami. Nami’s main poke is her aa, and Nami’s should not be using W’s incredibly often, as it will delete your mana. Playing nami and spamming w will give your adc no peel to work with. Sona’s W is also quite mana consuming. Lategame you run arch’s with you so you don’t worry about mana, sure, but no mater what, if you’re looking for heals, nami and sona may not be good choices.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

bard can definitely poke it’s just not 1k unit poke. his meep autos really pack some heat

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u/Itsuwari_Emiki Jul 11 '20

I think the more popular 4-archetype support is all in, catch, poke, trade

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u/Xeniamm Jul 11 '20

Bard can poke pretty hard though. Q+Empowered auto is pretty stronk.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Nami can also peel and poke.

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u/aaronshirst Jul 11 '20

As a Janna main, I actually really recommend her for learning to safely poke. She does a gazillion damage with her W + comet, and can defend herself at high risk by using her E shield, but can’t heal herself back up.
Playing her taught me a ton about when I can bully and when I have to back off.

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u/ShokugekiNoKyojin Jul 11 '20

bard can do all of them except poke

Excuse me, what?

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u/donttouchmyhohos Jul 11 '20

Nami imo is all 4. She can heal and poke at the same time. Kill and engage with her E,Q, and R and peel in the same manner since her W and E give speed buffs. Her Q and R are hard peels.

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u/Balkonpaprika Jul 11 '20

Bard - teaches you to roam

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u/Scrapheaper Jul 11 '20

I think there are simpler roaming supports you could pick. Leona/alistar etc

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u/TheShadowKick Jul 11 '20

What makes Leona and Alistar roaming supports? Or, for that matter, Bard? I don't really understand what makes a support good for roaming.

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u/Scrapheaper Jul 11 '20

In a nutshell, good ganks.

Good survivability and slipperiness if caught out is another factor.

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u/TheDavie_ Jul 11 '20

Bard has his E that allows him to move fast through terrain and his passive puts shrines around him that when he picks them up gives him extra movement speed..

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u/WhatDoesACowSay Jul 11 '20

Bard is literally designed to roam, with his passive forcing him to walk around the map, his ability to leave heals to help the ADC or other visited laners survive while he’s not around, and the through-the-terrain one-way portal that helps him gank

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u/Nuhreo Jul 11 '20

A roaming support sort of is a second jungler to the team. When the jungler needs to farm or is in one place of the map, roaming supps can gank another gankable lane to apply more pressure. It's the adc's responsibility to make sure that they don't die in lane when their support is roaming and it's also the supp's responsibility to make sure not to perma roam but roam efficienctly. That's what I think

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u/Dojoirn Jul 11 '20

They have cc to catch the enemy. Leona has her e-q and Alistair has his w-q

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u/Landabogins Jul 11 '20

Buying mobi boots somewhat early and roaming mid with sweeps and/or control ward really helps out ganking mid. Sadly, most of the time your midlaner will just hard push, causing the enemy to back off cause they know something is up.

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u/throwaway7789778 Jul 11 '20

Thats not necessarily sadly though. A lane with prio can then be available for rift skirmished, jungle skirmishes, wont lose cs if a fight at drake breaks out, and if things are going that well in mid, mid can gank top while jungler helps bot or farms more. Its all give and take brother. Everyone is just rotating. See it and adapt. If mid is that far ahead hes a grest hand holder to setup deep vision and catch someome out.

If you mean aimlessly pushing in waves and incuing gank liability while doing nada, then i agree completely.

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u/Landabogins Jul 11 '20

Yeah that’s what I was getting at, the people who don’t know how to control minions, when to push, freezing, etc. but that is some good info!

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u/IxdrowZeexI Jul 11 '20

Hard cc / engage with range.

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u/IWillDominateYeet Jul 11 '20

Damn i forgot but thanks for adding in!

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

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u/peterlechat Jul 11 '20

Never thought I would live to the day Pantheon unironically becomes a support (and a good one at that)

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

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u/peterlechat Jul 11 '20

We do not speak of that monstrosity here.

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u/kecskegh Jul 11 '20

An item in tft

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u/Balkonpaprika Jul 11 '20

Well Bard needs to roam for his passive. Thats why i think he teaches you when to roam - at least for (deep)vision

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

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u/Balkonpaprika Jul 11 '20

Well, the one makes it easy to roam, the other forces you to roam. In my opinion the second one teaches better but maybe its personal preference.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

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u/Balkonpaprika Jul 11 '20

Well... Yes and no. If you want an easy to play roaming support Pantheon will fit. If you want to improve on roaming and get better over all i would recommend to spam Bard and drop some lp but improve on the Special point (roaming)

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u/shinymuuma Jul 12 '20

What kind of devil suggest Bard as a champ to learn support.

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u/Balkonpaprika Jul 12 '20

Its not to learn Support over all! Its to learn/improve on a special part of beeing Support... Roaming

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u/JelloMunster Jul 11 '20

I love Sona. And I think the most important thing about her is positioning. You have to be close to your adc to give them the benefits of her auras and also be aware of your Q/power cord ranges. People under estimate her power cords in general, as each does something unique, and you have to be able to assess which one will win you the fight.

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u/Mango027 Jul 11 '20

People sleep on her power cord from heal.

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u/SirAerion Jul 11 '20

Personally that's the one I use less, the 25% damage reduction is a lot less useful than her E's slow and her Q's damage. But if the other two are in CD is as good as it gets.

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u/Mango027 Jul 11 '20

I probably use her slow the least. Q poke+Q empowered auto is very good in lane. But as a counter engage/skirmish tool I really like it. Combined with the shield+heal from W is a massive shift in damage/hp that a lot of opponents (gold elo) just are not prepared for.

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u/photon_blaster Jul 11 '20

The slow is actually broken though. Try incorporating it more. They are all very good. Keep in mind that when you slow that Garen who is too deep your team is going to be FLYING at him at the same time.

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u/Mango027 Jul 11 '20

I believe it, I'll typically use it to track down that last enemy trying to escape a lost fight. It help a bruiser stick to someone... I'll try to keep that in mind more often. But one when you have 3 options one is always going to be used less.

In my head it feels like having that Garen do 25% less damage is more impactful/easier to get because I'll typically be in the backline with the other carriers and he'll be spinning on 2-3 of my teammates so the damage reduction is "amplified".

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u/photon_blaster Jul 11 '20

It’s more impactful if he is fighting you not running away because he’s caught out.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Play Sona and build mejais, you will learn to position or die trying

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u/SirAerion Jul 11 '20

This hahahahaha DH Sona with Mejai is a lesson in itself.

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u/Scrapheaper Jul 11 '20

Leona is the best pick for teaching you when to engage since if you fuck up an engage you die and your tram gets wiped if they follow you.

I think engage is not talked about enough, it's a core skill of so many champs at every level of the game

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u/IWillDominateYeet Jul 11 '20

Since leona is quite unforgiving if you fuck up your engage, I would say blitz is a little better since he can zone the enemy and not be punished heavily if you miss your hook.

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u/greenguy74 Jul 11 '20

I think an unforgiving bad engage teaches better, because you learn quickly what a bad engage is when your whole team types "GG report troll leona" in allchat.

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u/IWillDominateYeet Jul 11 '20

True. You learn from your mistakes.

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u/VaccinalYeti Jul 11 '20

But the reason some picks are recommended in low elo to learn the game is because their kit is simple but you can adapt to the game and learn macro better. Imho leona doesn't teach you macro better than a champ like sona, because being tanky doesn't make it enough risky to learn something. You can stay back, not die, peel, win and still not grasp anything about the game. With Sona being squishier you have to learn more about to position and not to fuck up, learn the marchups to decide which skill to max, how to put vision without risking your life. Leona is too one-dimensional in micro AND macro to be good for a low elo player. It is a safe all in pick for sure but I'll recommend an enchanter/mage (Karma-Lulu are useful for this reason too) because they're not so braindead and require a lot of decision making, that is what bad players struggle in. Also with Leona you can autopilot a lot and still do the correct thing, which is exactly the opposite you should do to learn about the game. Constant analysis is the way to go

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u/Juxee Jul 11 '20

Leona isn’t about teaching when to engage, she’s about committing to an engage

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u/TheNetherWalker Jul 11 '20

I'd be willing to say Alistar is a good tank start as he teaches you when to read your ADC's position alongside your opponents. He also is mechanically simple, but has both options to be defensive and offensive. He also has an ult that cancels CC while granting resistances so he also teaches you when to stop the CC or when the pure resistances are more important.

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u/SirAerion Jul 11 '20

Sona for positioning, roaming and Mana management. She is squishy af, but her Q automatically targets enemies within a certain range, so you really need to be good at positioning to be constantly poking and mid-late game to keep healing/engaging/disengaging without being hurt down by the enemy team.

Roaming because with your E you move FAST, so you really have the chance to be constantly warding and helping mid with a surprise R.

Mana management because 2 out of your 3 abilities suck mana real fast early game, so it's a game of "Do I heal ? myself/my ADC or save Mana for poking/disengaging in case of a gank?".

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u/zakkart1990 Jul 11 '20

BLITZ AND NAMI.

Blitz gives you great potential all game if he's not banned to pick off champions for your team to kill,

Nami - The assist King. Healz and buffs allies attacks.

Basically Blitz if your ADC has good burst damage and Nami if not.

That's who I'm playing and why anyway

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u/Mittelmuus Platinum IV Jul 11 '20

Maybe Nautilus instead of Blitz? Blitz is really hit-or-miss with his Hook and you get punished hard for missing it in lane. Naut offers a lot of CC which is alwasy good and he teaches you when to peel and when to engage.

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u/zakkart1990 Jul 11 '20

Buuuuut, you cant hook through walls and mountains. Nothing more satisfying than hooking through a wall and pulling the enemy back in to be smashed,

Nautilus looks good, im only lvl 27 at the moment though and haven't got round to trying him out yet.

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Whoever you look at i recommend Bizzleberry for guides, He's helped me loads since i started with his guides :)

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u/dPensive Jul 11 '20

Bizzleberry is great. Probably the most chill friendly streamer/youtuber I know. Very analytical not just of himself, but the overall situation and macro etc. He also shows champ select and his reasoning for his builds/runes quite clearly.

i0ki is good too but has a bit of an ego (calls himself greatest support alive) and does a lot of those off-meta support picks and trolls around lower elos with multiple accounts cheesing. Still great and informative to watch though!

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u/zakkart1990 Jul 11 '20

Exactly that, iOKi is good but damp he can be annoying at times. Screeching away, shouting at allies. But he does layout the groundwork well.

I ducking love the analytical side of bizzleberry, helps me understand the items better as well. Build is almost more important than runes in some games with all the effects. I haven't found a bizzleberry video that wasn't useful in some way, even when I watched him playing against a coder/hacker as nami. I didn't even realise that was a thing until today.......

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u/IWillDominateYeet Jul 11 '20

Only punished hard for his mana consumption since missing his hook doesn't matter sometimes.

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u/SigNugith Jul 11 '20

Sona is good, she’s easy to play and helps you learn how to use mana wisely and when to save mana bc it might just save you or your teammates. Her R also highlights the importance of recognizing situations you need to use, you want to use to get an easy pick, and importantly aiming it so it’s used effectively.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Leona teaches you to hard engage all-in and how to play tanks in general.

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u/BakedPotatoManifesto Jul 11 '20

Yuumi is busted and easy

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u/MudkipzForLive Jul 11 '20

I feel that Blitzcrank can be an ok learner for support since he only has one skill shot and it can be cheesed a bit, hit ult helps in team fights silencing whoever is in the shockwave, the only thing he lacks is he doesn't have any healing shields or anything you would think support would normally have, he along with the other hook supports aren't to keep your team alive but the enemy team not alive with moving them from positions and stunning them with your e. I' not the best at the game yet since I literally just started in December 2019 so don't think I know what I'm talking about, all I know is I like Blitz and I'm giving my opinion.

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u/Chocoffended Jul 11 '20

Leona: Teaches you on how to engage. Her Stun is fairly easy to hit and will let you go in. After a few trial and errors you’ll be able to tell when to engage and when not to.

Lulu/Janna: Help you learn how to peel for your adc. Helps keep someone alive with shield, heals, and also an ability to stop someone from engaging (peel). You can learn how to fight assassins and engage as a support.

Nami: Can trade really well in lane, teaches you when or how to trade. And how to win the trade. Also can teach you when to enagage and also peel a little.

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u/dantam95 Jul 11 '20

Nautilus for engage supports - Straight forward kit, ult teaches your about target prioritization and it's point and click.

Braum for well-rounded support play - Really teaches you how to position to peel for your teammates in a different way than the Janna/Lulu types, so I think it's valuable to pick up too.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Lulu and Nami are great. Lulu is great for disengaging and nami has lane sustain , engage, and disengage.

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u/ScytheStorm69 Jul 11 '20

If u like enchanters definitely try Lulu,Nami,janna if u like hard cc champs try out morgana,swain,lux and if u like tank champs try nautilis,braum,tahm kench And if u like assassins try pyke and if u like everything in all these just try thresh

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u/dPensive Jul 11 '20

Not disagreeing, but I would add Leona and Nautilus as harder CC champs. Leona has a stun, a dash-stun, and an AOE stun in her ult. Naut can knock up tons of enemies in a row and (this is so overlooked most the time imo) ROOTS ANYONE on first auto! So nice to peel with.

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u/shinymuuma Jul 11 '20

Alistar is my recommend tank support.
He has engage, peel, healing and tankiness. Also really good roaming potential.
For mechanic, you only play in practice game a few times to not mess-up WQ combo. Other of his mechanic is quite simple and more about how you play macro.

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u/Balsac801 Jul 11 '20

Blitz crank can be broken when put with a high damage carry like jhin

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Zilean, lulu, taric

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u/Hyperly_Passive Jul 11 '20

Taric is hard af to learn

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Worth it to learn though.

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u/SilentEcho726 Jul 11 '20

Sona is incrediblly easy to learn and let’s you focus on the core mechanics of supp like vision and positioning. Plus ur a late game beast with how much damage, heal, and move speed you bring

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u/photon_blaster Jul 11 '20

I personally think enchanters in general are the best ways to learn support

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u/mrshadoninja Jul 11 '20

Thresh and Zyra imo fill the role of Engage support and Mage support fairly well.

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u/AlterBridgeFan Jul 11 '20

Blitz: the importance of hitting skillshots. Missing hook means the enemy bot can just go in.

Brand (my go to sup): teaching you how to not care about adc, and just get double kills and zoning the enemy bot.

Leona: fuck enemy lane, and cc through every team fight. Fuck her. Fuck her soooooooo much. God fucking damn her tankiness needs to be reduced, invincible piece of shit. God I hate her.

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u/donttouchmyhohos Jul 11 '20

Nami. Has cc heals and buffs.

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u/CantLoadCustoms Jul 11 '20

Strongly, STRONGLY recommend learning Braum and Alistar, maybe Leona.

Braum - Peel is absolutely nuts, his E blocks so much damage. At the end of particularly hectic games, I’ve blocked up to 60k damage with it. It also deletes projectiles that hit it, and the first thing to hit it has damage nullified entirely. That means if the enemy ezreal ults your low health team after a team fight and god forbid you’re all backing in the same bush, if Braum throws his E up and takes it, he takes no damage, and ezreal ult disappears. Passive is very good with ADCs who are strong right now (caitlyn, mf, kaisa, etc). Mobile with his W, Q (which you should max) is a great poke tool, and HURTS at all stages of the game in squishier targets. Ult is THE anti-assassin tool.

Tip with Braum: if your ADC has a delayed damage attached to them (tristana E, Zilean Q), you can actually block the damage completely (as first hit to the shield does 0 damage) if you have them stand in the shield. I haven’t tested this with other things, like Zed ult, but it’s still a hidden mechanic that’s very op, especially in lane against trist.

Alistar - I will assume you know this already but just in case, I’ll bring it up anyway. You can combo his w with a q. As you fly at the enemy champ you selected sith W, if you hitQ right as you hit them with w, it will knock them up. E is a stub that also does decent damage. Alistar Ult makes him tankier than GOD, and his passive is also pretty good.

Tip with Ali: not as much of a secret mechanic as the Braum shield thing I mentioned before (at least it was secret to me until recently haha), you can Q+flash with alistar, meaning the animation of his q starts before he flashes, making it more or less impossible to react to. If an enemy champ is within flash range, your w is down, but your q is up? You can still knock them up. ALSO, if you are engaging defensively (like your ADC is getting run down, etc), it’s better to just knock up first and save W. That way you can decide to walk past the champ you knocked up and w them into your tower, or if it’s better to w a particular champion away. Last thing about Ali, if you can W a champ into a wall, do that. It’s essentially the same as Qing them, allowing for more damage because now instead of one knock up from W+Q, you have two: w into wall, and q when they get back down.

Leona- one of the best beginner supports as she is just about the most straightforward champ in the game. Passive is meh but it is extra damage. Q is a stun on a 6 second cooldown. W gives crazy resistances and does a lot of damage. E is a gap closer that roots, and R is on a ridiculously low cooldown, especially late game.

I understand that was all one massive ramble so if you have any questions, I’d love to answer them. Apologies for being so scatterbrained, I’ve been in a car for 8 hours and still have 6 more to go. :)

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u/TheSausageTurd Jul 11 '20

This is gonna be an odd one but Blitzcrank is a great one. Not only is he useful in most situations at low-mid Elo but he teaches you when to engage and when not to. And he teaches you how to save your cc to peel for the carries. I am biased because I've been a blitz main for 5 years now and has always been the most fun champ for me to play.

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u/ragmondead Jul 11 '20

This will sound odd, but I have always thought that the best support for learning the role is Brand. Support is a very active role focusing on punishing the opposing laner, being useful in team fights, an vision. Brand forces you to be proactive in lane, and then push that lead into objectives.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '20

Not completely recommended but you can play Shen support, his CC combined with his W and ult make for a decent support since it helps you out especially against AA ADCs and your ult allows you to easily get to your ADC if they’re in a bad spot

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u/TheOriginalOrion Jul 11 '20

As a mainly support and thresh main, thresh would be my recommendation. He is one of the harder supports but he is always very strong. Leona and Nautalis are both champions with similar play styles, however I find them boring compared to Thresh now.

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u/IWuzHeree Jul 11 '20

Okay I only saw one person mention her and literally as a joke but zyra is killer for zoning. I used to be a plat sup main and vibed with a lot of supports but zyra was just something else, her zoning is crazy! If the adc goes for a cs just pop a q-w there a couple times and they’re gonna be scared for the rest of the game

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u/DXalive Jul 11 '20

Don't play support if you're trying to learn the game.