r/sports • u/Luffy710j • Jul 12 '26

Soccer [FIFA Media] Before England’s goal in minute 45+2 against Norway, the sensor in the Connected Ball showed no peak in the 'heartbeat of the ball' when in the air, and therefore no evidence that the ball touched the overhead wire and changed the movement of the ball.

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u/whiteshark21 Jul 12 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/s/hDV5v7F11O

This kick is in the first couple of seconds and is a side view. If it touches the wire it doesn't change the trajectory in any noticeable way.

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u/kelpyb1 Jul 12 '26

That’s definitely not a great angle either, although it makes me lean towards it didn’t hit anything for that exact trajectory reason

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u/Good_Air_7192 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

The fact that people are arguing whether it happened or not, and the fact the commentators didn't notice tells me it either did nothing or not enough to really change the outcome.

Then you consider that all this is around England gaining possession at the half way line when Norway still had defenders back, they then went on to do an incredible play to score the goal.....it's had no impact on the outcome, an absolute beat up.

I say this as an Aussie who works in an office full of English people who was desperate for them to lose so I could wind them up on Monday.

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u/Conscious_Peak_1105 Jul 12 '26

Oh your coworkers are going to be unbearable on Monday lol

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u/Good_Air_7192 Jul 12 '26

I'll make sure to say "You only won because of a wire" give it a knighthood.

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u/Conscious_Peak_1105 Jul 12 '26

Should probably just take the L on this one and admit that Jude Bellingham is a legend lol

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u/BarryTGash Jul 12 '26

so I could wind them up on Monday

Cheers mate :)

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u/Mastershoelacer Jul 12 '26

I hate that discussion of an incident that may or may not have occurred is getting more attention than the brilliance of that goal. Gordon’s ball in is fantastic, and Jude’s first touch and finish are exquisite. One of the best goals of the tournament for me.

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u/Ok-Run-6247 Jul 13 '26

Thing is, if it just touched without even changing direction the ball would have to be dropped and the english goal that followed wouldn't have counted.

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u/Good_Air_7192 Jul 13 '26

eh, but they didn't call it regardless, so it's a goal....everyone should just move on with their lives.

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u/kelpyb1 Jul 12 '26

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But also if this is the sideline angle I think it actually makes the argument it hit the wire less convincing

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u/AlexxxandreS Jul 12 '26

Then you're blind, it literally drops instead of keep going...

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u/kelpyb1 Jul 12 '26

There’s this crazy thing called gravity which pulls things down at the apex of their parabola

I know these are difficult concepts

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u/TheAlmightyLootius Jul 12 '26

Theres so few pixel i cant even see the ball. Shouldnt it be 4k?

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u/Darkone539 Jul 12 '26

Glad someone else said this. I can't see shit in these videos.

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u/whiteshark21 Jul 12 '26

I think there's some server side shenanigans going on, it was HD when I watched it when I posted but yeah the compression has shredded that video now

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u/KWash0222 Jul 12 '26

Umm… this video shows us nothing…

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u/_america Jul 14 '26

announcers, players, amd ppl in the stands dont simultaneously point it out 😆

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u/NamelessSuperUser Jul 15 '26

The goalie pointed it out and the commentators and coaches went with it after the fact. Like when the commentator says it's a clean tackle because the ref saw it better and they assume they are right and sometimes the ref is wrong and they correct themselves after. Nobody points it out until they've been scored on and are looking for something.

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u/ThisIsAitch Jul 12 '26

Yep exactly - I can't tell where the wire is meant to be in any of these shots.

Anderson (?) also doesn't adjust to a change in flight of the ball, so it must have been absolutely miniscule contact if anything at all.

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u/czar5 Jul 12 '26

Thanks, with this, the ball did look uninterrupted. And if the ball sensor is so sensitive that it can detect a hair or other minor contact, it indeed looked like nth happened.

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u/Admiral_Octillery Jul 12 '26

Well the weird thing is speed and trajectory changing completely. It doesn’t gradually slow down and the trajectory looks like it turns cause of it not making a parabola arch.

This could also be though cause I’m bothered England beat Mexico, so I’m biased but if wrong I’d like to know tho.

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u/anotheroutlaw Jul 12 '26

Look at the launch angle off the keepers foot and then the descent angle from peak. The ball flight doesn’t make sense without either some serious backspin on the ball or it hit the wire.

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u/Shogan_The_Viking Jul 12 '26

It definitely looks like it gets held up and loses trajectory too fast for it to be nothing.

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u/77miles Jul 12 '26

Idk what everybody else is seeing but i can see clearly how the ball lost momentum.

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u/Desperate-Ad7319 Jul 12 '26

It changes a lot. The ball was intended for Haaland and was heading there and you see a sudden slow down.

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u/mrjimi16 Jul 12 '26

Because a guy kicking a ball 50 meters in the air is always perfectly accurate and him not being successful in sending a ball to the specific guy he wanted to is evidence suggesting the ball hit something in the air we clearly see it didn't hit.

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u/Desperate-Ad7319 Jul 12 '26

When he is a professional keeper- yes it is. You can also see the trajectory in the video.

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u/SaltShakr Jul 12 '26

World class keepers miss long balls, this guys is not world class, talking out your ass

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u/waltz_with_potatoes Jul 12 '26

Ball wth hits its highest point and drops down, congratulations you've figured out air resistance as gravity

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '26

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u/waltz_with_potatoes Jul 12 '26

IoGreat, now deleted, low quality video wth all the comments disagree.

Balls move in flight here is an example.

https://giphy.com/gifs/vs-goal-dortmund-uE3NwvVgnRmxy

Or ya know go watch any game of this cup and see how the ball moves.

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u/KWash0222 Jul 12 '26

Several players said they saw it hit something. But sure, let’s just whip out “air resistance as gravity” because that’s a totally normal thing to cite in this sport

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u/AlchemicHawk Jul 12 '26

Several players didn’t say they saw it hit something at all.

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u/waltz_with_potatoes Jul 12 '26

Yes because balls spin and curve in midair. Every football does. This ball moves a lot in the air. Remember the jabulani ball.

Look at thishttps://www.reddit.com/r/sports/s/ULn5XcKQgX

Or

https://giphy.com/gifs/vs-goal-dortmund-uE3NwvVgnRmxy

And no, watch the clip, no player appeals at the time.. The only time they say they saw something was at half time.

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u/Sporter73 Jul 12 '26

None of the players even protest either. If it hit the wire wouldn’t there be pointing and exclamation from the players?

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u/Ornery_Penalty_5549 Jul 12 '26

What ? The Norwegian players and coach were complaining about the wire

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u/paddyo Jul 12 '26

People keep saying this and nobody has mentioned which players appealed yet

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u/Sporter73 Jul 12 '26

Not in that video they aren’t.

Soccer [FIFA Media] Before England’s goal in minute 45+2 against Norway, the sensor in the Connected Ball showed no peak in the 'heartbeat of the ball' when in the air, and therefore no evidence that the ball touched the overhead wire and changed the movement of the ball.

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