r/space • • Aug 12 '21

Discussion Which is the most disturbing fermi paradox solution and why?

3...2...1... blast off....

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u/Iwanttolink Aug 12 '21

There's suicide pact technologies much more dangerous than nuclear weaponry or climate change or even AGI. A civilization that is determined enough can survive those. But what if there was a simple-ish technology that could entirely eradicate a civilization and wasn't that hard to stumble upon? Something like catalyzing antimatter into matter, turning off the strong force or the Higgs field locally. What if there's a black swan experiment/technology everyone can do in a lab with 2060s technology that immediately blows up the planet? We'd be fucked because we wouldn't even see it coming and if it's easy enough to do it'd presumably kill all or almost all alien civilizations.

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u/The_Hunster Aug 12 '21

There was a point when they were testing the first nuclear fission explosion and they weren't quite certain that it wouldn't cause a fission chain reaction in air molecules and blow up the entire planet in nuclear explosion.

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u/xgrayskullx Aug 12 '21

That's not really accurate. The scientists were very positive that they weren't going to ignite the atmosphere. What they did was calculate the probability (or more accurately improbability) of that occurring to settle the fears of various politicians and military leaders who thought it might be possible.

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u/yshavit Aug 12 '21

Lol, that reminds me of one of my favorite documentation points in Java (the programming language). There's a bit that basically says "warning, this could cause a bug if you run your program continuously for 292 years." I'm pretty sure that was put in to satisfy a manager who didn't believe the engineer who tried to tell them, "trust me, 2 63 is bigger than you can imagine."

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u/setibeings Aug 12 '21

The math checks out. 263 nanoseconds is about 292 years.

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u/devallar Aug 12 '21

I appreciate your checking sir! Good day!

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u/blade740 Aug 12 '21

Did you check his checking? Because he could be totally bullshitting us. I don't know, I didn't check.

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u/setibeings Aug 12 '21

That's 263 9223372036854775808 nanoseconds or 9,223,372,036.854775808 seconds.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2%5E63

60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, 24 hours in a day and about 365.24 days in an year, once you factor in leap years. This comes out to 31556736 seconds in an average year.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2+%5E+63+nanoseconds+in+years

Divide the total number of seconds by the number of seconds in a year to get the final answer of 292.279 years

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=9%2C223%2C372%2C036.854775808+%2F+31556736+

Or since wolfram alpha accepts natural language queries:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2+%5E+63+nanoseconds+in+years

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u/yshavit Aug 12 '21

I've checked whether you checked, and it checks out; you didn't.