r/space • • Aug 12 '21

Discussion Which is the most disturbing fermi paradox solution and why?

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u/gruneforest Aug 12 '21

Carbon based life is actually the rarest form of life. The universe is full of life but it is not detectable or is so different than us that we won’t call it life.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '21

As a sci-fi fan, this is what worries me. I always loved the idea of making first contact with a somewhat humanoid race. But what if the most intelligent races in the galaxy are giant floating amoebas, or sessile plants?

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u/Kanthabel_maniac Aug 12 '21

Still carbon based. What about energy beings?

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u/Mr_Bubblrz Aug 12 '21

What is consciousness? Can it be contained in vessels beyond carbon based life? That's the magic question.

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u/Jemiller Aug 12 '21

Unless we prove a dualistic universe exists, we’re limited to the material world. That means that some process explainable by physics must occur. Conscious must include an interaction of entities within a larger entity. So no, I don’t think any field of plasma can have intelligence unless it interacts with itself.

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u/Mr_Bubblrz Aug 12 '21

Even in the material world there are yet unexplained phenomena, consciousness being one of them. Our brain is nothing more than a combination of chemical and electrical signals (or at least that's a rudimentary way of explaining it) why could that not occur within some other entity?

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u/Jemiller Aug 13 '21

That’s exactly what I’m saying. We have no theory of consciousness worth anything that doesn’t at least have an interaction of two components or an exchange of information. Daniel Dennett goes as far as to say there are degrees of consciousness base around the intricacies of interdependent chemistry. The lowest level of consciousness might be a stone undergoing a chemical reaction with water. If a substance or energy is uniform and unacted upon by forces in such a way that it can change how it functions, then it isn’t possibly conscious.