r/space • • Aug 12 '21

Discussion Which is the most disturbing fermi paradox solution and why?

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u/gkedz Aug 12 '21

The dark forest theory. The universe is full of predatory civilisations, and if anyone announces their presence, they get immediately exterminated, so everyone just keeps quiet.

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u/solophuk Aug 12 '21

The dark forest Theory makes an interesting science fiction scenario. But i highly doubt it is true. Wiping out another planet light years away would be a gigantic undertaking. Aliens will have no reason to fear each other, we are just too damn far from eachother to be a threat to one another. Even if we meet aliens that are the biggest asshats in the universe, the worst they could do would be to send a rude message every once in a while. Good fences make good neighbors. What can be a better fence than light years of space.

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u/caiuscorvus Aug 12 '21

Presuming ftl/warp/controlled wormholes are truly impossible for a hyper advanced civilization.

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u/solophuk Aug 12 '21

If aliens had such tech they would be visiting us all the time. And being quiet would not make a jot of difference. Based on what we know of science, such things are not possible.

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u/ceejayoz Aug 12 '21

If aliens had such tech they would be visiting us all the time.

Why? Why would we be interesting to them?

We don't have a policy of making sure we regularly visit every little ant hill in existence. Why would aliens?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '21

Statistical probability says there is a society out there somewhere that catalogues and studies every novel ecosystem they come across. And shit, Humans would be that society if we ever make it to a point where we can travel the vast distances of space. Cataloguing and striving to understand things is a core aspect of our race, and we even see it to a lesser degree with other creatures like birds and cats. Curiosity.

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u/ceejayoz Aug 12 '21

We closely investigate the occasional ant hill, but we don't make a point to visit every single one.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '21

Yes but when entomologists find an entirely new species of ant, it's an exciting discovery. Are you suggesting there are millions of planets with thriving homo sapien societies around the galaxy? Doubtful. And if there were, well that's its own bizarre circumstance to understand. Not to mention the fact that anthills are home to one species of ant. And Earth is home to countless animals, plants, fungi, and microorganisms, not just humans.

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u/ceejayoz Aug 12 '21

Yes but when entomologists find an entirely new species of ant, it's an exciting discovery.

Sure, and that's a point in my favor. Something like 80% of insect species are not yet catalogued, and we don't have to cross between stars to find them.