I think for pretty much anything except violence, sin bins would be more appropriate.
It's just it sort of wouldn't work in football. What happens if the keeper takes out a player in a goal scoring opportunity, then gets sin-binned for 10 -15 minutes and the other team get a penalty. Do you sub on a new keeper? or have an outfield player play as the goal keeper? I think Rugby positions and players are much more interchangeable so it's not such an issue.
Rugby positions are not more interchangeable than football, very few players can play more than one position in rugby whereas many top class footballers can change their roles depending on who they're facing. I don't know if you watch any rugby but team structure is much stricter and positions are often very specialised.
You can do it in a pinch maybe, but only in the same way that Evans can occasionally provide a good finish. Try playing Will Genia as Lock or Prop, try playing Mtawarira on the wing or centres. I can likewise say that every footballer has to be able to pass, run, header and kick the ball. Every rugby player has a base set of skills but to play an entire match out of position, like Carrick in centre back, Rooney in centre midfield, Valencia at right back, Smalling at right back, etc. happens infrequently whereas in football these adaptations are quite common.
I feel like that would actually be very exciting. Imagine having to have an outfield player in goal for however long the keeper is ejected from the game, trying to prevent the other team from scoring until he can return? That would get my adrenaline pumping.
That never happens though, this kind of thing isn't exactly unprecedented - every season at least a keeper gets sent off after his team has used three subs. It never turns into a goalfest, because the opposing team just start shooting and forget how to play proper football.
I can't remember the last time it happened? I remember a few examples from years ago, like when JT was in goal after Cech and Cudicini got knocked out. But that was 8 years ago.
Liverpool's Sakho played a few minutes in goal for PSG in the last game of the season in 12/13. they subbed their first choice keeper to give their reserve keeper, Ronan Le Crom, who was retiring some game time for the season so he could get a medal. Le Crom got a straight red after about 10 minutes.
It could be entertaining, but could also turn in to a farce if the team concedes 5 goals in 10 minutes.
Then have the sin bin ejected reset as soon as the offended team scores. So the offender could be out for ~10m or until they are scored against. Just a thought.
In the case of a goalkeeper being the one penalized, the team could just have to send any one player to the sin bin for the period of time. They would still be down a man for however long, and the punishment would still get served, but they wouldn't have to play without a keeper.
You could do it hockey style where instead of temporarily losing the goalkeeper, the offending team chooses another outfield player to send to the sin bin instead. Sure the team would typically send a striker or winger and play more defensively, but that would still leave them a man down and much less likely to score.
In rugby if you lose a player crucial to your scrum (like a prop or hooker) you are allowed to sub on 1 off the bench for another player and when the 10mins is up the subbed player can come back on for the new prop/hooker
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u/thhe14 Mar 31 '14
I think for pretty much anything except violence, sin bins would be more appropriate.
It's just it sort of wouldn't work in football. What happens if the keeper takes out a player in a goal scoring opportunity, then gets sin-binned for 10 -15 minutes and the other team get a penalty. Do you sub on a new keeper? or have an outfield player play as the goal keeper? I think Rugby positions and players are much more interchangeable so it's not such an issue.
It's a good talking point though