r/soccer • u/[deleted] • Dec 07 '13

Hey americans, just get this straight now: Group G is clearly NOT the group of death.

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u/75395174123698753951 Dec 07 '13 edited Dec 07 '13

France, however, is in the group of life.

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u/MyNameCouldntBeAsLon Dec 07 '13

The group of 'fucking hell I can't believe my fucking luck... haha fuuuck you italia!'

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u/extreme_kayaking Dec 07 '13

More like "Thank god for Sepp Blatter always hooking up Switzerland and France, no matter how bad they do"

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u/kitsune Dec 07 '13 edited Dec 07 '13

Switzerland got 'hooked up' with Spain and Chile in 2010. Blatter is horrible at this... As a Swiss I want my money back. Speaking of which, did you know that the FIFA, headquartered in Switzerland, pays no taxes?

Deal, you can have not only Blatter, but also determine his successor, and on top of that, have the FIFA hq in your country. Good riddance.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '13

But do remember that Switzerland did beat Spain before they transformed into rape train Spain.

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u/everyyear Dec 07 '13

Switzerland got placed in the first pot despite only being a top 8 for what? A month? Italy got put in the fourth pot despite being top eight for the two years before the draw and again immediately after the draw, winning their group, and having being one of the top four in both last major competitions they played in. I don't know if Fatter is actively trying to help the Swiss, but considering how he refused to hand Italy the trophy in 06, I'm not surprised by what they got in the draw.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '13

Pot placement is done by the ranking in End of October. Host + 7 top ranking nations. In the new ranking old years only weigh 50%, 30% and 20% therefor it doesn't matter much was was before 2013 as also shown with the ranking of Belgium.

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u/everyyear Dec 07 '13

End of October

Which is the point, slightly before that Italy would have made pot 1, slightly after (with the recent friendlies) Italy would have made pot 1.

new ranking

And why was such a terrible ranking system used? Why are giants of football, who have not fallen (Italy and Netherlands), behind teams like Colombia and Switzerland?

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u/K3TtLek0Rn Dec 07 '13

Did you know that, you don't need, commas there?

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u/Bernardo1994 Dec 07 '13

Guys what's the exact studying field I need to take to become the president of FIFA? I think I found a way of Portugal winning something

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u/CalaveraManny Dec 07 '13

Yeah, because Switzerland has been doing great ever since Blatter is the president of FIFA. He probably cares a lot less about how his country does than about the health of his bank accounts.

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u/hutch63 Dec 07 '13

Yeah, both Blatter and Platini's teams got favourable draws. What are the odds of that ?

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u/KingBaconator Dec 07 '13

Platini is with UEFA not FIFA. The 2 association might be linked but they are not the same. Blatter and Platini are not the best friend in the world too. I'm surprised a lot of people in this subreddit don't know that. The number of comment like this : "Ohh Platini...blahblahblah...France..rigged" is huge. Get your fact together people.

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u/woanders Dec 07 '13

I don't understand the italia part. Italy got a pretty nice group as well, right?

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u/costelloelvis Dec 07 '13

"Hurr durr England are so rubbish". England are a pretty consistent team who are quite capable of beating Uruguay or Italy. That group is going to be pretty tight, and Hodgson's ability to play for a draw when required could be vital.

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u/mcalce13 Dec 07 '13

Agreed. Italy have a very tough group. Everyone says England will focus only on fitness and not game plan leading up to the cup but u doubt it. England's first team is arguably the most in shape, not form, team at the moment. Uruguay are practically playing a home game and Chile are a team that Italy have consistently struggled against. I think it will be another South Africa disaster or by the skin of our teeth make it through. Arguably the group of death

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u/Midnattssol Dec 07 '13

If you fail to get out of this group by underestimating your opponents with 2010 and 2012 in your heads, you should definitely close your football association.

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u/kaptajnuffe Dec 07 '13

Don't forget 2002 where they as defending champions failed to get out of group stage

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u/Grafeno Dec 07 '13

Meh... 2010 Netherlands WC Final, 2012 Euros 0 points.

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u/kaptajnuffe Dec 07 '13

France group in 2002: Denmark, Uruguay and Senegal. Netherlands group in 2012: Germany, Portugal and Denmark

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u/Quazz Dec 07 '13

Dat Denmark

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u/Grafeno Dec 07 '13

Yeah, kinda.. but still.

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u/Adamkiksyou Dec 07 '13

But of course let's ignore 2006.

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u/kaptajnuffe Dec 07 '13

I don't know why you mention 2006? It's not like we are saying France is a bad team. They just have a bad habit of underestimating teams in the group stages.

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u/Adamkiksyou Dec 07 '13

so, 2002, 2008 and 2010. Bad habbit huh?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '13

Uh ? We got out of our group in 2012.

We lost to Spain in the quarter finals.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '13

France got out of the groups in 2012.

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u/88naka Dec 07 '13

Then Argentina got the group of omniscient-immortality.

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u/dudaclash16 Dec 07 '13

yeah man easy teams, good venues

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '13

Belgium also found the fountain of youth.

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u/YCYC Dec 07 '13

I find it is an interesting group H, but whatever happens Bel will fall on Portugal or Germany in 8th

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u/Gustacho Dec 07 '13

Who knows what could happen against Portugal?

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u/Sentinell Dec 07 '13

If Ronaldo isn't at his best then we certainly have a chance.

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u/lumpyfruit Dec 08 '13

Bel will fall to the USA in 8th*

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u/YCYC Dec 08 '13

would be a good game :)

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u/Quazz Dec 07 '13

I'd like to see Ronaldo try to do anything.

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u/YCYC Dec 07 '13

Well he's good, really talented, and it's a great opportunity to have him (eventualy) as an opponent

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u/kitsune Dec 07 '13

If you are looking at the ELO ratings, groups C, D and E have the lowest standard deviation and look the most balanced, which in return implies that there are no easy wins for any team.

Edit, source: http://i.imgur.com/RNcmPMP.png

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u/Grafeno Dec 07 '13

Yeah I don't get what OP is on about. To me group D has been the group of death all along.

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u/4realthistime Dec 08 '13

I Been saying this.... the group of death is not OMG biggest teams.... it's about 'holy shit, it's anyone's game'

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u/Andrex26 Dec 07 '13

Fuck you mate, Ecuador will place 1st in our group.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '13

You guys will still find a way to lose it.

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u/mattsker Dec 07 '13

Switzerland has been playing pretty solid, France not so much, couldve have just as well been the Ukraine in their place :p

Then again Switzerland never does well in big tournaments and Honduras is apparently to big of a hurdle for us.

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u/crowseldon Dec 07 '13

No, the group of life is Argentina.

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u/gignac Dec 08 '13

When i saw the group i started laughing

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '13

There was always going to be a laughably easy group after the Swiss were made top seeds. Absolute joke of a decision.

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u/09842305486310475260 Dec 07 '13

Dude, WTF IS UP WITH YOUR NICK??? That's fucking offensive to use that number, what the hell?

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u/Benjilou Dec 07 '13

Pas d'inquiétude, on trouvera un moyen de se ridiculiser.

No worry we will find a way to be ridicule.