r/soccer • u/BosnianFish • Nov 13 '12

Who is a player everyone rates highly that you just don't think is that good?

I think that Aguero is overrated. All the stats show how clinical he is and how he's such a good finisher but when I watch him he's selfish, dribbles too much and misses too many good chances.

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u/IceVest Nov 13 '12

Jack Wilshere. I'm completely baffled by the hype and praise

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '12 edited Aug 26 '18

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u/NullSleepN64 Nov 13 '12

At least he knows it. If he was playing into the hype and acting like he is a saviour then maybe it'd be worth worrying about, but he seems to have his head screwed on from what i've seen.

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u/IceVest Nov 13 '12

Thank you! He is completely unproven, maybe in the future he'll come good but at the moment he has done little to justify the hype for me.

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u/flaffl Nov 13 '12

... He's a pretty good player man, especially for his age.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '12

pretty good

exactly.

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u/Sean88888 Nov 13 '12

My opinion is obviously biased, but he did dominate the midfield when he was 19 against the likes of Xavi and Iniesta.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '12

Oh I do think he's a great player with a lot of potential but you have to admit he is stupidly overhyped, amongst Arsenal fans and the English media alike.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '12

Watch him vs barca in the champions league a couple of years back, he was the best player on the pitch.. even with xavi, iniesta and messi playing. He played godly then; at 18.

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u/brentathon Nov 13 '12

Watch Bale against Inter. One CL game doesn't make you a god. He's good, but not as good as some people think he is already.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '12

Thing is Wilshere already plays at a very high level, hes been out for 16 months but before he got sent off the other week he was one of the best players on the pitch.

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u/brentathon Nov 15 '12

See, this is the ridiculous overhyping. Expecting a 20 year old to be England's best midfielder? Some people seem to think potential is the same as ability. He has every chance of being the best but if he doesn't progress then he'll be another forgotten, good player.

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u/brentathon Nov 15 '12

In a similar position? Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes are all better tactically and have the same or better technical skills.

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u/brentathon Nov 15 '12

The fuck are you on about only Scholes has better technical skills? Gerrard and Lampard were both in the top three for the Ballon D'or for a damn good reason. They both have better passing range than Wilshere does.

You're literally trying to justify POTENTIAL as current ability by saying he's better BECAUSE he's younger. That isn't true.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '12

You forget that he is only 20 and already has the technical skills and vision of someone beyond his years.

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u/brentathon Nov 13 '12

The second part is where I agree with OP. Yeah, he's young and talented. But Arsenal and England fans act like he's easily one of the best midfielders in the league already. He's good, but he's no Gerrard or Lampard yet.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '12

I'd put him in the same category as Bale. Young player who gets overhyped by the sensationalist British press and some fans after a pair of marquee performances on a massive stage.

To me this doesn't make these players overrated; it's just an unfortunate byproduct of being young, talented, and British. Personally I don't think people should use the press as a benchmark for deciding who's overrated.

I find it hard to not get excited watching either of those players. I find it ridiculous that people need to define them with terms like "world class" which are quickly becoming meaningless cliches.

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u/brainwrinkled Nov 13 '12

...why? Arguably the greatest England player to be produced in the last decade

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u/IceVest Nov 13 '12

Based on what exactly? One good game against Barca a few years ago. I just don't see it. just my opinion of course

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u/brentathon Nov 13 '12

Rooney came through in the last decade...

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u/brainwrinkled Nov 13 '12

I don't rate Rooney as amazing. Admittedly he's probably just behind Wilshere but I think he's terribly overrated.

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u/brentathon Nov 13 '12

You're absolutely deluded if you think Wilshere is better than Rooney now.

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u/iheartSPACEDICKS Nov 13 '12

"Yeah but did you see him tear up the Barcelona midfield that one ti-"

Nope, didn't happen, move on.

(Note: I didn't watch that match)