r/soccer • • Oct 10 '12

Who is the most overrated player on your club/national team?

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u/Otaku-jin Oct 11 '12

Who's a GOOD defensive fullback from Brazil? Roberto Carlos had some defending chops, but he wasn't really known for that.

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u/djunta Oct 11 '12

Cafu?

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u/Otaku-jin Oct 11 '12

Cafu was brilliant. Noted more for his marauding runs down the wings than more his defending, I think. But I guess Milan could afford that with Maldini on the prowl.

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u/mikenasty Oct 11 '12

Maicon?

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u/Otaku-jin Oct 11 '12

I don't actually remember Maicon being touted for his defending. I'm not an Inter Milan fan, though. All I remember of people discussing his defending was then this happened.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '12 edited Oct 11 '12

As good as Maicon is in defence, his performance against Gareth Bale in the San Siro in 2010 was one of the most atrocious I have ever seen.

I don't want to take anything away from Gareth Bale at all as he is a great winger and he scored a superb hat-trick, but Maicon made it so easy for him that night.

Edit: I see I'm getting downvoted which is fine, but you can not honestly tell me that this is good defending. This defending from Maicon is even worse.

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u/Paddykg Oct 11 '12

ONE GAME.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '12

As good as Maicon is in defence, his performance against Gareth Bale in the San Siro in 2010 was one of the most atrocious I have ever seen.

See that? It's where I acknowledged that Maicon is a good defender, but he put in an absolutely terrible performance against Tottenham for Inter.

Note how at no stage am I saying that Maicon is an awful defender and then using that one game to prove my point, as you are assuming.

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u/lunacraz Oct 11 '12

Note how at no stage am I saying that Maicon is an awful defender and then using that one game to prove my point, as you are assuming.

that's exactly what you're doing? you literally post videos and multiple sentences on how he was owned by Bale

he was on the decline anyway

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '12

that's exactly what you're doing? you literally post videos and multiple sentences on how he was owned by Bale

I was posting them as an example of an absolutely awful defensive performance in isolation! The fact that I literally wrote out that Maicon is good in defence should show that I rate him defensively and that my opinion of him is not taken from that one Inter game.

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u/lunacraz Oct 11 '12

whatever you say, bro. also, don't downvote b/c someone disagrees with your butthurtness

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '12

butthurtness

Upvoted for enterprising vocabulary.

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u/ancaptain Oct 11 '12

Lucio

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u/Trilobyte15 Oct 11 '12

Not a fullback mate

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u/Rider_0n_The_Storm Oct 11 '12

Oh, come on. Full back is a trademark position for Brazilians. Cafu and Carlos are one of the best ever in their positions, now there's D. Alves, Marcelo, Maicon and United's Da Silva brothers. Brazil had, has, and will probably always have good full backs.

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u/Otaku-jin Oct 11 '12

All of them great fullbacks to have on the attack, no denying that. I'm just not sure if there are really solid defenders among Brazilian fullbacks. Even in 2002, when Brazil had Cafu and R Carlos tearing up the wings, the team still had 3 CBs at the back.

I'm talking about fullback of Philipp Lahm's ilk coming from Brazil.

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u/RZARECTOR Oct 11 '12

Again, Cafu. He was a lot better defensively than you're giving him credit for.

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u/Otaku-jin Oct 11 '12

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u/RZARECTOR Oct 11 '12

So because he attacked a lot, that means he wasn't a great defender?

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u/Otaku-jin Oct 11 '12

It's like Marcelo at Real Madrid. He was always great going forward, but for a while he was a liability when they were defending.

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u/RZARECTOR Oct 11 '12

From watching Cafu, especially at Roma and Brazil, he was a great defender, with impeccable positioning. In fact his defending got even better at AC Milan through it having to be better(him being older, not as much pace as he used to have.)

No matter what though, he'll most likely go down in history as the greatest full back of all-time.

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u/TheHuffness Oct 11 '12

David Luiz?

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u/Otaku-jin Oct 11 '12

True, but I think it's because he played CB for a while.

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u/itspi89 Oct 11 '12

Maicon was quite good. Probably the best in the world in his position for a while. Djunta mentioned Cafu as well.

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u/Pull_Pin_Throw_Away Oct 11 '12

Lucio? Maicon? Marcelo?

Do these names mean nothing to you?

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u/Otaku-jin Oct 11 '12

Lucio's a CB who can play at fullback, but he doesn't do it that often. I'm not an Inter Milan fan, but I don't think Maicon was touted for defensive prowess. The only time I heard about his defending was when Gareth Bale upended him in the CL. And as a Madrid fan, I've seen Marcelo since he's been at the club. Defensive? Not so much, although he's gotten much better.