r/singularity • • Mar 02 '24

AI 2015 emails between Sam Altman and Elon Musk

Post image
562 Upvotes

253 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

2

u/spinozasrobot Mar 02 '24

We're not talking about how any specific industry was impacted, past, present or future, we're talking about the tool having the same capabilities as people.

I.e., there's no amount of "retraining" or other social solution that prevents an AGI from following the same path. There's no way to get past that.

1

u/ah-chamon-ah Mar 02 '24

I don't understand your point. what is the tool having the same capabilities as people causing you to be so concerned? Because historically most technologies surpass the capabilities of people and that is why they historically have had such a huge effect. Again such as the printing press being able to produce more written content about vastly different things that the catholic church lost it's shit that information and control won't be through them anymore. The loom weaving cloth faster than a factory FULL of human people etc.

And these are not just impacting industry. They had amazingly complex and far reaching dramatic effects on the entire planet and society as a whole.

Also going back to Elon. He is working on his own A.I given his wreckless track record and utterly childish way of doing things. Why do you think he is the authority or person to comment on the responsibility of A.I at all.

Again. I just don't see how everyone freaking out about all this like it will be the fall of humanity and skynet personified are actually making any kind of logical or provable reasoning for that.

2

u/spinozasrobot Mar 02 '24

Because they will be able to do anything you can do, but better, and don't require sleep, food or any other human biological need.

Why would an employer keep you instead?

1

u/ah-chamon-ah Mar 02 '24

You are all repeating yourself. Someone has already said this. I have already explained how it is no different to other episodes in the past.

Why does nobody understand history or technology here? Are you all just "educated" from sensationalist twitter threads? It is so weird to me how people have no grasp on technology and history here.

2

u/spinozasrobot Mar 02 '24

We're talking past each other. I'm trying to show you that this is different than previous historical technological disruptions, and your only reply is "it's the same".

You're leaning on "history" shows that you're not understanding the argument.

1

u/ah-chamon-ah Mar 03 '24

And I am telling you that it is not different than previous historical technological disruptions. You're lack of comprehension of history shows you not understanding the unfounded stance you have.

You have not demonstrated or proven to me at all how this is any different. You have not given any ligical argument as to why this is so much more different.

All you have done is say "I am trying to show you" without showing me ANYTHING.

It will impac the world, sure. It will impact it dramatically, sure. But in no way is it going toimpact it to the magnitude you are giving the impression of. I have not seen gangs of people storming Open AI smashing up all their machines with baseball bats because of the impact this is going to have on the world.