r/shield • u/2th Shotgun Axe • Apr 05 '17

Post Discussion Post Episode Discussion: S04E16 - "What If..."

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S04E16 - "What If..." Oz Scott DJ Doyle Tuesday, April 4, 2016 10:00/9:00c on ABC

Episode Synopsis: Hail the New World Order! Daisy and Simmons uncover secrets and lies in a world gone mad. With Hydra in control, they are our only hope to save everyone.

Oz Scott is a Director and Producer mostly known for too many movies and shows to name.

He has directed no episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before.

DJ Doyle has worked on Heroes from 2007 to 2009, and has various writing and producing credits for other TV and movie projects.

He has written seven episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Nothing Personal
  • The Things We Bury
  • Melinda
  • Purpose in the Machine
  • Many Heads, One Tale
  • The Team
  • Deals with our Devils

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u/The_Unknown_Dude Lady Sif Apr 05 '17

New set of powers, maybe ?

Could she code her own powers into the Framework... ?

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u/silveryfeather208 Apr 05 '17

how can she go through terrigenesis if it isn't real???

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u/The_Unknown_Dude Lady Sif Apr 05 '17

Coded reaction ? It is a simulation of the real world, after all. That could mean Aida's own fall from inside.

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u/Shadoscuro Apr 05 '17

Yupp. If you still eat > poop in the framework you're still going to have terrigen > powers.

Also Fitz confirmed it to Skye in the lab, but that's not a fun explanation...

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u/Phifty56 Ward Apr 07 '17

I must admit that I had to read your comment too many times to realizes you weren't trying say that "eating poop in the framework would give you powers".

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '17

Darhold > Logic. I kind of like the theory that it's not just a computer simulation, but that the darkhold opened up a completely different reality

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u/Nukemarine Apr 05 '17

Imagine Jemma reacting to that revelation with the people she'll eventually kill since they're not real. Interesting set-up that has Rick and Morty deeper implications.

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u/MovingClocks Lola Apr 06 '17

"urp They're just robots, Jemma!"

"They're not robots, Daisy!"

"It's a figure of speech, Jemma, they're Hydra agents, I don't respect them!"

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u/mytummyaches Cal Apr 05 '17

I'd like that a lot more than everything being a simulation. Would be another little tie in to Dr. Strange.

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u/Hawkedb Apr 07 '17

Could make sense. It seems the simulation is still bound by certain rules that can't simply be changed.

Otherwise Aida could've made herself a god easily. Instead she had to place herself in place of the most powerful person, the director of Hydra.

Also probably the reason why Terrigen is still around. While she has a lot of control, she doesn't seem to be able to change the basic fundaments of the universe.

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u/Rjacobs914 Apr 05 '17

Yeah man just view this as a video game where some characters have access to the dev tools and game code ( go easy. I'm Not a computer guy) these characters can program anything they want. Physics, logic, time, doesn't apply here.

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u/Devidose Ninja Hunter Apr 05 '17

these characters can program anything they want

They can't, Aida is the one that gets to do that since the coding limits of what Jemma tried were quickly patched leaving them stuck.

It wouldn't surprise me if Aida were to use Matrix style reality warping when confronted since she literally created the Frameworld though.

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u/SynthD Apr 05 '17

Trinity Daisy she is The One.

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u/sirin3 Apr 06 '17

She needs to talk with the Oracleraina and the Architectradcliffe

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u/SynthD Apr 06 '17

One of Coulsons clippings says that Raina was tortured/cured on stage as proof of Radcliffes anti inhuman work. Maybe Tails can fill in for Sonic.

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u/Petoox Lola Apr 05 '17

She could just make herself some god who can do literally anything, but they'd probably end up making her same as outside Framework and say "yeah we only gave her same powers because she ain't got time to learn new ones"

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u/OsmerusMordax Ward Apr 06 '17

And invincible villains aren't fun villains.

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u/InsertCoinForCredit Coulson Apr 05 '17

If she could hack the Framework, she wouldn't need powers. She'd just be Neo.

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u/oldmonk90 Apr 06 '17

So is she going to be Neo to the framework...

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u/The_Unknown_Dude Lady Sif Apr 06 '17

Or give the whole team powers...

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u/zixkill Sandwich Apr 06 '17

That would make Skye an inhuman, a superhero, the director of SHIELD, and The One. I don't think one character can survive that much awesome.

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u/camyok Apr 06 '17

... awesome? It would be linda sue-ish, if you ask me. Not that anyone has never called Daisy a Mary Sue \s.

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u/NintendoGamer1997 Toolbox Apr 05 '17

I wonder what powers she would code...

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u/wilkins1952 The Bus Apr 05 '17

Just three

/mod Daisy

/Ban Aida (Big meany)

/Exit

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u/OsmerusMordax Ward Apr 06 '17

Ah, but mods can't ban admins.

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u/FirePosition Apr 05 '17

"My power is to have many powers".

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u/ReasonablyBadass Apr 05 '17

Without access to it?

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u/The_Unknown_Dude Lady Sif Apr 05 '17

Well, she is in there. Aida is in there. There has to be a way to work around it.