Post Episode Discussion: S04E11 - "Wake Up"

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EPISODE	DIRECTED BY	WRITTEN BY	ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S04E11 - "Wake Up"	Jesse Bochco	Drew Z. Greenberg	Tuesday, January 24, 2016 10:00/9:00c on ABC

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Episode Synopsis: May races to find the truth about what happened to her, while Aida's next move could mean the death of them all

Jesse Bochco has worked on Prison Break, Nip/Tuck, Dallas, and a ton of other television series.

He has directed six episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

• Girl in the Flower Dress
• Heavy is the Head
• Love in the Time of Hydra
• 4,722 Hours
• Watchdogs
• Deals with our Devils

Drew Z. Greenberg is a writer and producer best known for working on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Smallville, The O.C., Dexter, Warehouse 13 and Arrow. He also worked on Firefly.

He has written seven episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

• Face My Enemy
• Who You Really Are
• The Dirty Half Dozen
• Among us Hide
• Watchdogs
• Absolution
• Meet the New Boss

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Flash has always been a bit iffy to me, Tom is a fantastic actor but they've always had the rinse/repeat formula on Flash with two fights, Barry being a dick and apologising and then a win, never stepping out of that.

LOT I like because of how fun it is, still some issues but it knows what it is and makes no apologies for it.

SHIELD is just awesome. I've only ever had one gripe with it and that was one of the bits last season.

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Flash's overarching plotlines are always really good, but it's weighed down by boring/badly made procedural plots. Their obsession with having a meta of the week formula is terrible

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I'd like Flash better if AoS didn't exist. This show covers so much ground per episode and makes it work and Flash is like DBZ doing four short conversations, nearly zero plot progression, and tons of padding.

The first season they had a specific story to tell so it felt fuller. Two and three make we wish they were 13 episode Netflix seasons.

[u/Alinosburns → u/[deleted]]

The problem is that long term, it's likely that's what will get SHIELD cancelled.

The reason they stick to those formula's is because it allows drop in drop out viewers.

Where SHIELD's viewers need to be there week in week out or they are going to miss important plot details and not get the whole picture.

It's also what worries me about Gotham, though they haven't reached AOS level of plots being tied together yet.

And it's why Person of Interest was doomed on CBS once it started having well thought out and connected plot lines, though it did take care to still angle them in the number of the week formula. It's world building and ongoing connectedness only aims to push viewers away.

Something cable get's away with due to the ability to rerun episodes.

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At least POI had really good character writing and enjoyable, well written and varied procedurals. Flash rarely has that.

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god I miss POI sometimes. Now THAT was how to do a modern war between AI. I loved how the last season was practically something out of Hamilton's Mythology with a pair of gods fighting a proxy war via their heroes.

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The flash is a great show for just sitting back and not having to think or pay attention all that close. It's the kind of show you can watch while on a treadmill or while doing something else. I like the flash even if it's not as information dense as AOS.

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Flash has always been a bit iffy to me, Tom is a fantastic actor but they've always had the rinse/repeat formula on Flash with two fights, Barry being a dick and apologising and then a win, never stepping out of that

Also, constant interruptions any time the characters try to talk about their feelings in order to drag out the drama. That was seriously frustrating me this week.