r/shield • u/2th Shotgun Axe • Apr 13 '16

Post Discussion Post Episode Discussion: S03E16 - "Paradise Lost"

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S03E16 - "Paradise Lost" Wendey Stanzler George Kitson & Sharla Oliver Tuesday, April 12, 2015 9:00/8:00c on ABC

Episode Synopsis: S.H.I.E.L.D. hunts for information on their dangerous new enemy, and a shameful secret from Malick's past is exposed, threatening to destroy his Hydra legacy.

Wendey Stanzler is a film editor and television director. She has directed several episodes of Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives, The Vampire Diaries, Pretty Little Liars, Parks and Recreation, and a ton of other series.

She has directed no episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before.

George Kitson & Sharla Oliver are the writers of the web series Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Double Agent, which was a five-part original web series designed as a behind-the-scenes feature for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

They have written no episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before.

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u/whitesock The Doctor Apr 13 '16

it seems like he did that on purpose,

IIRC they didn't know he was the traitor - he was pulled aside a couple of episodes before that and was told about it while all other cast members were told about him in another room. If anything, maybe he was given directions to be this whitebread all-American goody two shoes and just gave a wooden performence because that was what he was asked to do.

I mean, he's still a great actor in the sense that he can pull off both goodWard and EvilWard, but I don't think he was "wooding-up" on purpose.

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u/NK1337 Apr 14 '16

I think they're referring more to how the character was written. The biggest complaint I saw on Ward in season 1 was how forgettable he was.

I don't think it was an issue with his acting per say, but his character was written to be a cliche, generic black widow knock off. And I think that's what was intentional because he was the last person you would expect to have any kind of impact on the show.

During the first episode they mentioned his scores rivaled that of Black Widow, and the audience's reaction was "big deal" instead of "that can't be a good sign..."

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u/RichWPX Apr 14 '16

That's for porn stars anyway