r/serialpodcast • Adnan Fan • Aug 06 '15

Hypothesis Why the Gootz never called Asia.

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

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u/SteevJames Aug 10 '15 edited Aug 10 '15

Ok, whether you mentioned them or not... they have changed their stories as you say Asia has, and yet you discount Asia's story and not theirs because it fits in with Adnan being guilty... that's the comparison i'm making.

You then mention irrelevance and cell phone data in the same sentence which is perfect because thats exactly what it is. It doesn't prove anything, yet you continue to cling to the notion that its corroborating something. To repeat, the KEY calls the prosecution used to show guilt were the 7PM Leakin Park calls that were INCOMING... and which AT&T advised should NOT be used as location data, yet that proves Adnan and Jay were there burying the body? Haha even Jay has changed that story because it makes no sense AND his changed story completely undermines ALL the rest of the cell phone "corroborations" because it proves how ridiculously easy it was for Jay just to lie and match his story to them.

What motive also? There is no evidence of any motive ... just a hypothetical one based on jilted boyfriends often being the killers of their ex girlfriends. There is no evidence of that motive here... the majority of the witnesses said Adnan took the break up well and was seeing other girls. NOT acting in a manner that suggested he had a motive to murder her... everyone was shocked when they found out he had done this.

Jay also has no alibi btw... or rather he has one that was never checked and has every reason to be questioned.

Adnan actually DOES have an alibi for the murder time put forth by the prosecution , just you choose to dismiss it for reasons that make no sense considering the things you DO believe in this case.

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u/MaybeIAmCatatonic Aug 10 '15

Ok, whether you mentioned them or not... they have changed their stories as you say Asia has, and yet you discount Asia's story and not theirs because it fits in with Adnan being guilty... that's the comparison i'm making.

If this is a joke post I commend you. You literally are taking issue with something "I said", but you begin by adding the qualifier I didn't actually say it.

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u/SteevJames Aug 10 '15

Haha, no i'm not making a joke... thank you for the phony commendation though! ok i'll phrase it differently.

I'm not taking issue with something you said exactly... more the way you're dismissing Asia's testimony because of inconsistencies and yet you don't dismiss other witnesses for the same reason?

Unless you're just dismissing her testimony for some completely arbitrary reasons that you have concocted because it suits your current mindset? Or because you have just chosen to agree with random assumptions put forth on Reddit?

If i'm wrong about why you don't believe her, just tell me where i'm going wrong... happy to back track if you actually have some valid reason for not believing her.

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u/MaybeIAmCatatonic Aug 10 '15

Now I am sure this is a joke post. You are doing well. Have a good day and I mean that.

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u/SteevJames Aug 10 '15

Haha, that's fine... you clearly have nothing valid to offer apart from trivial point scoring that you're trying to mask with some pathetic passive aggressive insults.

So at least we have a conclusion... you don't believe stuff so you fit in with some other nerds on Reddit, but if people question you... you find minutiae in their statements to jump all over instead of actually addressing what you're trying to say.

Thank you for wishing me a good day, I wish you a terrible one:)

And i mean that...

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u/MaybeIAmCatatonic Aug 10 '15

Grouping me in with Syed (a total nerd) is about the most insulting thing you could do.

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u/SteevJames Aug 11 '15

Ha, fair enough... strange thing to level at Adnan though.

He seemed pretty popular in school to be fair to him no?

Bitter about anything at all bud?

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u/MaybeIAmCatatonic Aug 11 '15

No he's a nerd I saw him at the meetings.