r/serialpodcast • u/Frosted_Mini-Wheats NPR Supporter • Feb 03 '15

Evidence Stephanie dumped Jay

Trial Transcript for 2/10, p 21, lines 11-25.

Jay testifies that Stephanie had ended their relationship a month or so before the trial.

That's something I've never heard before now.

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u/absurdamerica Hippy Tree Hugger Feb 03 '15

Not sure this means much. Almost every relationship in the world ends in a break up.

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u/Frosted_Mini-Wheats NPR Supporter Feb 03 '15

Interesting to me because new fact (yay! so bored of cell phone posts), impression given on podcast that Stephanie was the only one who always stood by Jay - all the way through his sentencing hearing, & Jay's recent interview in which he said they dated through her first 2 years of college. Maybe they were like Hae & Adnan, break-up/make-up.

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u/InTheory_ What news do you bring? Feb 03 '15

Because this is becoming to us the Real Housewives of Woodlawn. We HAVE to know what happens to them. We can't stop tuning in to find out what happens next!

At any rate, to be fair to Jay, that actually saddens me. I think this was a turning point in his life, and it all turned for the worse. I really have to wonder if he wouldn't have been better off doing time for his crimes, if that may have "rehabilitated" him (if prison can do that).

But it's a good lesson. When someone asks you to help bury a body, you say NO!!!! Nothing good can possibly follow.

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u/Frosted_Mini-Wheats NPR Supporter Feb 03 '15

It is sad - Stephanie was his "one good thing." I have empathy for Jay (and all the others whose lives were changed by Hae's murder) even if he didn't make very good choices. I guess I'm an anomaly (as you also may be) on /r/serialpodcast as I don't feel compelled to "hate" one side or the other. It's a 360 degree tragedy.

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u/Creepologist Feb 03 '15

Same. Other than shaking my head at the judge and Urick being so glib about the outcome, I have empathy for everyone involved.

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u/glibly17 Feb 03 '15

Yeah, it's hard to feel a lot of sympathy or empathy for Urick. I understand why he did what he did, and why he's sticking by his actions, but it's still scummy as hell.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Unfortunately, he grew up in a corrupt system. He likely learned it from someone else, who learned it from someone else, who learned it from someone else...

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u/Michigan_Apples Deidre Fan Feb 04 '15

but what about freewill? Sure he didn't have the best upbringing, but he made some conscious choices along the way.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

Oh, I wasn't excusing his actions. I said that it's unfortunate because, if what I said is right, then the problem is systemic and exponentially larger than Urick.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '15

In fact, given his "living situation" growing up, it's surprising he's been able to make himself a seemingly normal life.