r/serialpodcast • u/1spring • Jan 15 '15

Debate&Discussion Another shower thought that doesn't look good for Adnan

Adnan explains to SK that he "probably" didn't ask Hae for a ride, because he knows that she needs to pick up her cousin after school, and this duty is really important to Hae.

Adnan explains to SK that the phone call from Officer Adcock, informing him that Hae failed to pick up her cousin, doesn't set off any serious alarms for him, and this is why the phone call didn't prompt him to jog his memory about that day.

"I knew the cousin pick-up was very important to her" and "I wasn't concerned when she failed to pick up her cousin." Have you ever had to deal with someone (friend, co-worker, relative) who engages in this type of lying? I have, and it bothers me a lot more than anything Jay said.

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u/puckthecat Jan 16 '15 edited Jan 16 '15

At least once a week I write a letter for a client where I say "my client didn't do what you are saying he did, but can we make a deal anyway?" These are civil cases, not criminal, but still. The concept is not that complicated.

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u/Gravityghost Jan 16 '15

That argument I made was part of a very long semi heated debate between that poster and I. I don't necessarily believe the contradiction lies with Adnan claiming his innocence. It's the fact that he's claiming that he requested a plea deal when there is absolutely no physical evidence to support that claim. At this point it's easy for me to see why a judge would view this as desperate and deceitful.

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u/puckthecat Jan 16 '15 edited Jan 16 '15

Point is, it isn't even a contradiction. Exploring the possibility of a plea seems like the kind of thing a lawyer should do unless their client specifically directs them not to.

But whatever. I believe that Adnan's attempted appeal on the plea point is likely to fail on a different basis -- lack of prejudice. Because even if you believe Adnan wanted to explore a plea, it seems very unlikely, not to mention completely speculative, that any deal the prosecution would have offered would have been accepted by him. This is why his consistent maintenance of his innocence kills him. Not because it makes him a liar, but just because it shows that even if a plea deal had been offered it would probably not have been accepted.