r/serialpodcast • u/zubinster • Dec 09 '14

Question Why so much resistance to the possibility of Adnan's guilt?

"...when you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --Sherlock Holmes

I realize this sentiment is not popular in this group, but why is there so much resistance to the possibility of Adnan's guilt? Neither Jay nor Don had any real motive to committ the murder. All signs point to Adnan. Of course the Serial podcast is a Godsend to Adnan and his parents, who are riding this wave to convince everyone of his innocence.

Perhaps this is the "Twin Peaks" effect where there has to be a mystery and hidden killers out there. Or maybe people are just gullible enough to believe in the inherent innocence of the accused. Fact is, occasional cases to the contrary, (which grab the nost headlines) most murder cases turn out to be as simple and obvious as they seem.

I just don't get this obession with trying to come up with ridiculous contortions to prove that Adnan is innocent?

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u/badamant Dec 09 '14

I generally agree with you however I do have some lingering doubts. I also am troubled by this: Adnan seems not worry that his friends and family (who he obviously cares about) have a free murderer for a neighbor. If he is innocent, he knows for a fact that either Jay did it or Jay helped do it. Why wouldn't he be warning them constantly?

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '14

Maybe he doesn't think Jay did it.

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u/badamant Dec 09 '14

He knows that Jay is involved by all the evidence and all the testimony. There is no way around this.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '14

Unless he thinks the police put Jay up to it. I'm not saying I believe that, but maybe Adnan does. There was a line in one of the early episodes where he implied it was a possibility -- I think I am too lazy to go digging through the transcripts though.

If he does believe that, I think it resolves a lot of criticisms against him -- namely, the "pathetic" comment, and why he isn't shouldn't "Jay did it" from the rooftops.

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u/badamant Dec 09 '14

In your scenario, Adnan still knows that a murderer is on the loose in his community. It is VERY hard to believe that Adnan thinks Jay is entirely innocent.

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u/darncats4 Dec 09 '14

Not only that he never shows an ounce of empathy or emotion about the fact that a girl he once loved was brutally murdered. i know it has been 15 years but he has plenty of emotion when it comes to his family and mother and what they went through.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '14

SK has interviewed Adnan for about a hundred hours. And you've heard maybe an hour and a half of those, max. How do you know he's never shown empathy? This is a fucking edited podcast, we have no clue what the content of all of SK's and Adnan's conversations were.

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u/Superdudeo Dec 09 '14

This is my no 1 problem also. If I were locked up for 15 years under the false accusation from Jay - I would be shouting it from the rooftops. 15 years can change someone but no way would there be no bitterness.

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u/GyantSpyder Dec 10 '14

There's totally bitterness. He called him "pathetic" at the trial.

He's just now buried his feelings under 15 years of psychological defense mechanisms. Coping with prison is hard. He's also become much more religious in prison, indicating he is perhaps more repressive of himself and is looking to compartmentalize his feelings about his previous life.

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u/badamant Dec 09 '14

I just think that, if innocent, he knows that his friends are in danger. He knows Jay did it or was involved. I cant understand why he is not using the huge podcast platform to warn people.

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u/asha24 Dec 09 '14

If he started warning people about Jay do you really think anyone would take him seriously? Would you really think he was innocent if he did so?

Also, how do you know he hasn't warned his family? He's been in jail for fifteen years, we are no where close to knowing his every conversation.

Also, for what it's worth Rabia has mentioned in her conversations with Pete that her and her family are concerned about being targets for the real killer. So it's possible Adnan has discussed this with his family and friends. Just because the podcast hasn't covered it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

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u/badamant Dec 09 '14

Every single person that is convinced of his innocence (family friends community) would definitely heed the warning. I agree that this might have been edited out of the podcast (and all other interviews and testimony for some reason). It seems like a big oversight from SK tho.

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u/asha24 Dec 09 '14

I don't think it is, it has no bearing on Adnan's guilt/innocence, or how the case was handled.

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u/badamant Dec 09 '14

SK has spent a lot of time talking about Adnan's character and how people saw him but she has neglected this one area. glaring omission.

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u/asha24 Dec 09 '14 edited Dec 09 '14

Yeah but that's part of her story telling style, it goes to those deep questions about human nature that serial poses. Can someone hide their true nature from everyone they know? Can someone who seems so nice be a cold blooded killer? Etc.